BONUS: Tales of The Empire Trailer breakdown

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Hey, everybody, and welcome to a special bonus episode of Sneaky Geek. Another one. We're breaking down another Star wars trailer because we are living in a time. [00:00:09] Speaker B: Of rich Star wars ness. [00:00:12] Speaker A: Rich Star wars ness. Rich, buttery, creamy Star wars ness. Delightful. [00:00:19] Speaker B: I am hungry. [00:00:20] Speaker A: I am too. We should pause this and go eat. And while we're doing that, we'll let the theme song play. Hey, everybody, guess what? The tales of the Empire trailer dropped, and we did a reaction video, and it was great. We reacted. We watched it twice within the video, which was not enough. [00:00:44] Speaker C: Yeah. No. [00:00:45] Speaker A: Which is why we watched it, like, four more times that day. [00:00:47] Speaker B: I loved this trailer so much. Holy crap. [00:00:51] Speaker C: Oh. [00:00:51] Speaker A: I mean, do I really need to watch this show? I've been so fulfilled by this trailer. And we're good. [00:00:56] Speaker C: Yeah. What do you. [00:00:58] Speaker A: Well, there's a show coming out too. That's amazing. [00:01:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, I'll take. I mean, the trailer was rad, but I'll take a show too. [00:01:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:05] Speaker A: I mean, if you're offering. [00:01:06] Speaker C: Sure. [00:01:06] Speaker A: Like, since you're here. Yeah. While we're hanging out. So before we start, I feel like we should give some backstory about what we're actually talking about for anybody who's not coming, who's not fully aware. [00:01:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:19] Speaker A: We've got tales of the Jedi. [00:01:21] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:01:21] Speaker A: Tales of the Jedi. Which is last year. [00:01:26] Speaker B: Two years ago. [00:01:27] Speaker A: Two years ago. You're right. 2022 years ago. [00:01:29] Speaker B: What is time? [00:01:31] Speaker A: And we were at the panel where they showed. [00:01:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:34] Speaker B: The first episode. So that was, that was, that was the cool part, funny part, interesting part, because we were all at celebration, and I saw the tales of the Jedi on there on the, on the program list and hosted by Dave. And I don't think maybe Carrie Beck was there, too. [00:01:56] Speaker C: Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Cuz I went and said hi to some people. Yeah, it was on, it was on the program list. And I kept telling everybody, like, yo, I don't know what this is, but. [00:02:05] Speaker A: We need to go. [00:02:06] Speaker B: But we need to go. And everybody was like, well, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I kind of want to walk the floor. I kind of want to see what other panels are going. Like, no, y'all, we gotta go. [00:02:14] Speaker A: I mean, I'll say yes to anything where you're like, Dave Filoni will be there. [00:02:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:18] Speaker A: And I'm like, I love Dave. Yeah, yeah, I'll go hang out with Dave. [00:02:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:20] Speaker B: But it took, like, everything I had. But, y'all, we have to go to this panel. I'm going whether you're going or not. [00:02:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:27] Speaker B: I don't know what it is. No one knows what it is, but I'm gonna be there. And they did it in the big ol arena at celebration. [00:02:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:33] Speaker A: Like it's an arena. And Dave's gonna be there. [00:02:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:36] Speaker B: Like, it's gonna be a good time. [00:02:36] Speaker A: Either way, this isn't just a sit down with sheev, which was also great. [00:02:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:40] Speaker A: But this is like something else. [00:02:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:44] Speaker B: So. So most of us went and Dave came out and announced that, hey, this is a new show we're doing. There's six episodes. There's two stories going on. [00:02:56] Speaker A: A lot of the team from Clone wars was involved. [00:02:58] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:02:59] Speaker B: Same animation style studio. Kevin Kainer did the music. [00:03:03] Speaker A: Would you like bonus new episodes of Clone wars? Yes, we would, basically. [00:03:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:08] Speaker A: That was the same time they announced that they got Liam Neeson and Liam Neeson's son to be involved for voicing Qui Gon and young qui Gon. [00:03:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:16] Speaker A: Which was super cool. [00:03:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:17] Speaker B: We watched the first episode, which was Ahsoka as a baby and her mom. Yeah, baby. [00:03:21] Speaker A: Ahsoka who? [00:03:22] Speaker B: That was epic. [00:03:23] Speaker C: That was so good. [00:03:23] Speaker A: So good. So cute. [00:03:25] Speaker B: Yeah, so it. So tales of the Jedi was two stories. One was about Ahsoka, three episodes on her, about ten to 15 minutes each. Minisodes. And the second one was Count Dooku. And at the time, everybody's like, heck, yeah, morisoka, let's go. Oh, dooku. That's awesome. And then the Dooku stories were absolutely epic. Not that the Ahsoka was bad by any means, but, like, the dooku episodes came out of nowhere and were fire. [00:03:55] Speaker A: I don't know if it was because there was a lot of question as to where the canons stood with the Ahsoka story versus Ek Johnston story. But for me, there were some discrepancies. [00:04:08] Speaker B: But at the same time, Dave helped Ek Johnson write those stories. So this is all coming from Dave either way. [00:04:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:15] Speaker A: But for me, I came very excited for Ahsoka. And then in that we got really cool stuff leading up that hinted at how Ahsoka was able to survive order 66. And we got the cool, basically retelling of Ek Johnston story. And then we got a really good first episode. [00:04:36] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:04:37] Speaker A: But the dooku stuff, that shit slapped from start to finish, every episode, like the Ahsoka episodes, I was like, I'm so glad that we got this. [00:04:45] Speaker C: This was nice. [00:04:45] Speaker A: What a nice gift. [00:04:46] Speaker B: We get some more wrecks. We get her at the funeral. Heart wrenching. [00:04:49] Speaker A: That was beautiful. There were great moments. [00:04:51] Speaker C: Yes. [00:04:51] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:04:52] Speaker A: But for me, I was absolutely here for the dooku stuff. [00:04:55] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:04:56] Speaker B: Tail end, like. [00:04:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:58] Speaker B: Ahsoka episodes were like 9.5 out of ten, and the Dooku stuff was all ten out of ten. [00:05:03] Speaker A: And it was hard for me to recognize that it was a 9.5 out of ten or even, like, even like an eight out of ten. [00:05:09] Speaker B: Again, it wasn't bad thing. But I think we've just had so much Ahsoka stuff. Again, not a bad thing. We love Ahsoka. I got, I got a tattoo on my arm. [00:05:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:18] Speaker B: So can Rex and. But this Dooku stuff because we just don't know anything about him. And this was just a little bit after the Du audio drama came out. [00:05:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:30] Speaker B: And that deals with his kind of younger side in him as a Jedi padawan and him finding out about his family. A great story. Kevin Scott wrote it. We're Kevin Scott fans over here. [00:05:41] Speaker A: We got big love for Kevin Scott. [00:05:43] Speaker B: But we didn't have a whole lot of anything of Jedi Dooku. [00:05:46] Speaker A: No. [00:05:46] Speaker B: And him pal around with mace Windu. And mace Windu being Mace Windu. [00:05:50] Speaker A: You know, the only thing I would have wanted if you could have said, hey, we could see Dooku as a Jedi, I would have been like, cool. I believe what you mean to say is we get Sifo Dyas as a Jedi. Where's my Sifo Dyas? Tales of the Jedi. That's what I want. [00:06:06] Speaker B: Probably with the PLo Koon episodes. [00:06:08] Speaker A: I would also like that. [00:06:10] Speaker B: I would also like that Plo Koon's, Dave's favorite Jedi. So those have to be coming eventually, but we'll get into that kind of stuff later. [00:06:16] Speaker C: Please. [00:06:17] Speaker A: So much. But, yeah, with the Ahsoka ones, once I kind of accepted that it was going to be adjusting the canon possibly a little bit or honestly, they can both happen. Both can be true because she doesn't get her sabers out of that. And the inquisitor that she just accidentally kind of kills in Ek Johnston's Ahsoka book, it could happen again. Literally. What happens in that trope of, like, the Shane trope? Dave knows what the Shane trope is, where it's like, here's the mysterious stranger comes to town, hey, I got a bad past. I'm a bit of trouble. You don't want to get too close to me. Bad things follow me. Bad things happen and they gotta go on with their life. [00:07:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:00] Speaker A: And so for, and the problem that characters like Shane encounter is that this keeps happening to them wherever they go. [00:07:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:07] Speaker A: So it's not like, what happened with this inquisitor is the same story. [00:07:13] Speaker C: No, no. [00:07:13] Speaker A: As what happened in EKG. [00:07:14] Speaker B: They really could both happen. [00:07:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:16] Speaker B: And it makes sense. We just don't know timeline wise, and that's okay. [00:07:20] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it was fine. So once I got past that, I was like, okay, I'm here for it. That being said, this is all leading for me to say we have two stories happening in this tales of the empire thing. [00:07:29] Speaker B: Yeah, we do. [00:07:30] Speaker A: But they're both tangentially related to Ahsoka. [00:07:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:34] Speaker A: And for me, I'm not tired of Ahsoka yet because she's my favorite Jedi. It's really hard for me to be tired of just about anything. [00:07:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:42] Speaker A: But I feel like I know I want more than just six. I wanted more than just six with tales of the Jedi. [00:07:48] Speaker B: Yep. [00:07:50] Speaker A: But I would have liked it if we had had somebody who didn't have a direct line to Ahsoka. These are both Ahsoka's enemies. [00:07:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:58] Speaker A: This is the magistrate, who we only know because she was fighting Ahsoka and. [00:08:02] Speaker B: Is a major part. [00:08:04] Speaker A: And the Ahsoka tv is a major part of Ahsoka. [00:08:07] Speaker B: Of rebel shows five. [00:08:08] Speaker A: Yeah, but she shows up in Bando. [00:08:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:12] Speaker A: On the Ahsoka episode. Like, for a lot of people, she was introduced within a minute of Ahsoka. [00:08:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:18] Speaker A: Especially if you didn't watch clone wars and your first Ahsoka story was Mando. Yeah, for a lot of people, that's the case. And then the other story. [00:08:25] Speaker B: Glad y'all can join us. [00:08:26] Speaker A: But the other story being Barrisofi, which, if people don't know, Barrissoffy has. Has her first appearance, actually in attack of the clones. [00:08:36] Speaker C: Yeah, she's there. [00:08:37] Speaker A: She's in the background, but she is like, BFF's with Ahsoka. There's a lot of weird bar Ahsoka fan art online. [00:08:44] Speaker B: It's very troubling, especially early on, because. [00:08:48] Speaker A: They'Re very troubling ship for me. I don't, like, I'm not here to yuck your yum, but at first we're. [00:08:54] Speaker B: Like, okay, I can see this happening. And then, like. Cause it's like season two and three of clone wars when they're like, buddy copying. [00:09:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:01] Speaker B: It up. [00:09:02] Speaker A: Teenage buddy cop. It works. [00:09:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:04] Speaker B: And then later on, once you know, the storyline happens, you're like, oh, no, what are you doing? [00:09:09] Speaker A: But there's still current Barrissofi Ahsoka shipping art. [00:09:14] Speaker B: The Internet is going to Internet. [00:09:16] Speaker A: I know it is, but I'm just like, what are you thinking she's not gonna. She left her entire life because of the shit you did. You sneaky, sneaky. Oh, God. Anyway, so having these two be, having these two stories being two major adversaries for Ahsoka, it's hard to keep counter the arguments where people are like, Dave Filoni's gonna. Dave Filoni can't help but put Ahsoka everywhere. And I'm like, I get it. [00:09:48] Speaker B: But also in Dave, we trust. [00:09:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I do. And I trust Dave because Dave has effectively created someone we can root for who is a Jedi, who has their shit together. And I appreciate that because it really feels like he's taking some of that old canon and being like, hey, let's add. Let's do that story again. But we're gonna have to reskin characters because certain other people took wildly different approaches to Luke Skywalker. So for me, I think that Ahsoka related content is still fine, but I would have liked a tales of the Empire story that maybe wasn't so directly related to her. [00:10:33] Speaker C: Gotcha. [00:10:34] Speaker A: Yeah, but that said, I'm still gonna watch it. I'm still gonna swear and be like, oh, shit. [00:10:39] Speaker C: Oh, no. [00:10:40] Speaker A: The whole time. Because I watch these shows like a freaking wrestling match. And, yeah, we do. Not as bad as we do for. For Kaiju. More on that on another episode coming soon. Yeah, yeah, but, yeah, well, it's funny. [00:10:52] Speaker B: Cuz, like, I. I didn't even realize it didn't. I didn't put those two together that, oh, they're Ahsoka's adversaries. I just thought, like, originally, I'm like, oh, I thought we'd get a season two of Tales of the Jedi. [00:11:04] Speaker A: You've been asking for something else, though. [00:11:06] Speaker B: Tales of the Sith. [00:11:07] Speaker A: That's what you've wanted for a while. [00:11:09] Speaker B: With this one because they're both dark side force users at this point. It's just like, cool. Tales of the dark side users. I'm here for it. I didn't even. [00:11:18] Speaker A: I didn't think about that because she's a nightsister. She does have dark side magic. [00:11:22] Speaker B: And Barriss offee, like, left the Jedi, and she's doing dark side shit. [00:11:26] Speaker A: And she's, yeah. Doing inquisitor shit. [00:11:27] Speaker B: And she's doing inquisitor shit. Well, try and do inquisitor shit. We'll see what happens. [00:11:31] Speaker C: But. [00:11:31] Speaker A: Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:11:33] Speaker B: So, yeah, that's. [00:11:35] Speaker A: That's wild. Oh, my gosh. I hadn't even thought about that. So I guess for me, it's not like, oh, these are two adversaries. It's like, hey, this is building in more information for, like, finishing an Ahsoka storyline that we never really got to finish, which is. What the hell happened to Barris? [00:11:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:53] Speaker B: Which is literally years and years. [00:11:55] Speaker A: And it's giving us our Netflix episode. Eight of your twelve episode series flashback episode. Yeah, I reference this all the time for some reason. Netflix and all of the Marvel shows, it's like, episode six, seven, or eight. We gotta toss in a full flashback of your bad guy episode. [00:12:10] Speaker B: And it's always mind blowing. [00:12:11] Speaker A: It's always good. [00:12:12] Speaker B: It's great. [00:12:13] Speaker A: It's always good. It's like the Nick offerman episode of the last of us. Like, fantastic. Please, let's depart. I love when. I love when shows do that. [00:12:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:23] Speaker A: So for me, it is. I feel like we're finishing one storyline that never really quite got its due, and we're starting something that we now, because thrawn and the magistrate whose name escapes first shot. [00:12:37] Speaker B: Oh, Morgan Elsbeth. [00:12:37] Speaker A: Morgan Elsbeth. Thank you. Thrawn and Morgan Elsbeth are our very first shot of this thing, and they're the main big bad in whatever is happening in the plotline of David Filoni's Star wars right now. [00:12:52] Speaker B: The Filoni versus the Internet's been calling it. [00:12:54] Speaker C: So. Yeah. [00:12:55] Speaker B: Should we just jump right in? [00:12:56] Speaker A: Let's jump right in. I mean, well, let's jump in after 15 minutes of talking about it, but, you know, we had a lot to say. [00:13:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:02] Speaker A: Now that that's out of the way, I'm just gonna smash that play button. Smash that play button. So we open. We got three star destroyers, big old star destroyers. [00:13:12] Speaker B: One of them's probably the Chimera. [00:13:14] Speaker A: Oh, I hope one of them's the chimera. Yes. [00:13:17] Speaker B: Are we pronouncing that these days? [00:13:19] Speaker A: I pronounce it Chimera. [00:13:20] Speaker B: That's what. Yeah, I think that's what it is. [00:13:22] Speaker A: That's how I pronounce it. That's how Mark Thompson pronounce it. And it's been going pretty good so far. [00:13:27] Speaker B: Boom. [00:13:27] Speaker A: Now we're. And we get another shot. Why do you seek imperial favor? Okay, so we ask. See, he asks her why she seeks imperial favor. We got that sweet, classic Lucasfilm logo. Love that. And then we cut to shots of the Clone wars. Clone wars. Siege, if you will. I guess. [00:13:49] Speaker B: Siege of Dathomir. [00:13:50] Speaker A: Siege of Dathomir. [00:13:52] Speaker B: I'm coining that now. [00:13:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:53] Speaker A: This is the moment where Dooku betrays mother Talzin, where we get to see some of the worst of the nightsister magic. [00:14:01] Speaker C: Ooh. [00:14:01] Speaker B: Which is interesting because in son of Dathomir, the kind of forgotten, unmade Clone wars episode that was made into a comic book, instead, we do see Dooku insidious, like, fight mother Talzin. [00:14:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:14:16] Speaker B: I wonder if we're gonna get any of that. [00:14:18] Speaker A: That would be cool. [00:14:20] Speaker B: And so that kind of brings up. [00:14:21] Speaker A: Even if it's in the background. [00:14:22] Speaker B: I was gonna bring it up later. It's like, are these shots in the trailer? Only from the first episodes of each story. That's what the last couple years of Marvel and Star wars trailers, the initial trailers, whether teaser or whatever, are mostly. Probably 85% from the first episode. Yeah, maybe two. Sometimes a little bit further on if it matches what's going on. But I wonder if we're gonna get, like, multiple shots of dathomir and all that stuff. [00:14:49] Speaker A: Well, I have a friend who cuts trailers for a living, my friend Maurice. And sometimes they'll give him the entire thing, and sometimes they'll give him what they have if things aren't finished, et cetera. And sometimes they'll only give him a certain portion. Like, it kind of varies. [00:15:03] Speaker B: They know. [00:15:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:04] Speaker A: Because they know they don't want things leaking. [00:15:05] Speaker C: It's. Oh, yeah. [00:15:06] Speaker A: You know, they also, most of the time, are getting early cuts. [00:15:09] Speaker C: Right. [00:15:10] Speaker A: And those early cuts, they might even say, like, hey, we're not. Like, we're still not sure what's going on with this particular scene. Feel free to use shots or whatever if you have to. Yada, yada, rogue one. So we see the scene. We got battle droids. We got super battle droids. They're coming in. They're blasting. We see a nice dathomir tree. [00:15:30] Speaker B: There's fire going on. [00:15:31] Speaker A: There's so much fire. And we see the Nightsisters running. [00:15:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:37] Speaker A: And just overwhelmed. [00:15:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:40] Speaker A: And she's saying that her world was all but destroyed by she. I mean, the magistrate is saying, my world was all but destroyed years ago. [00:15:48] Speaker C: My people were all but destroyed. My anger gives me strength. It is that strength I offer the. [00:16:02] Speaker B: Empire, who's voiced by Deanna from Mandalorian and Ahsoka. So pretty much everybody who voiced any character is back for these episodes. [00:16:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:11] Speaker A: Mickelson for Thrawn. Jason Isaacs for the grand inquisitor. [00:16:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:16] Speaker A: I wonder if they got Barris back. [00:16:17] Speaker C: Yep. [00:16:18] Speaker B: Barriss offees original voice actress is bad. She's married to Patton Ellswold. It is Meredith Salinger. [00:16:24] Speaker A: Meredith Salinger. Was Barra Sophie? [00:16:25] Speaker C: Yes. [00:16:26] Speaker A: Was she also the one who played her live action. [00:16:28] Speaker C: No. [00:16:29] Speaker A: No. [00:16:29] Speaker B: Okay, we have Diana Lee Inosanto. We have Meredith Salinger. We got Raya killstit. I'm so sorry I butchered that name. I'm sure. Who's playing Lynn, aka the fourth sister who played her on Obi Wan. [00:16:43] Speaker A: That's super cool. [00:16:44] Speaker C: Mm hmm. [00:16:44] Speaker A: I kind of forgot that she was on Obi Wan. As we discussed before we started recording. [00:16:49] Speaker B: Today, she wasn't on there a whole lot. [00:16:51] Speaker A: I mean, it was so Reva focused. But I also have only watched Obi Wan once. [00:16:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:54] Speaker A: And I have not come back to it yet because I want to watch that fan made film version of it, which I have. [00:16:59] Speaker B: I mean, I might have. I mean. Yeah. Then we have wingt Chow, who's playing wing, who was on the mandalorian episode. He was the, I guess, one of the main prisoners that was in the city with Ahsoka and Mando, who ends up taking over at the end. Spoilers. If you haven't seen Mando, you should. It's great. And then we have Lars Mikkelstein coming back as our main man, Thrawn, and Jason Isaacs as the grand inquisitor. And then, of course, Matthew Wood as your personal favorite, General Grievous. [00:17:34] Speaker A: I'm so excited that. [00:17:35] Speaker C: Right. [00:17:36] Speaker A: Of all the stories that have happened in, like, the. And then this guy just wound up being the character. [00:17:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:41] Speaker A: General Grievous is such a weird story of, like, here's this guy. He worked in post. We made him do some coughs. [00:17:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:49] Speaker A: Then we made him do some lines. Then we modulated them and then said, hey, you wanna be on our show too, since you're already here? [00:17:54] Speaker B: He also plays all the battle droids. [00:17:57] Speaker A: Does he really? That's so. [00:17:59] Speaker B: So he does it in the Clone wars. He did it in rebels. He's doing it in all the video. [00:18:02] Speaker A: Games, the battle droids. [00:18:03] Speaker B: Cause he's one of the sound engineers. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Are different on clone wars in sound than they are on phantom menace. They have higher voices in Clone wars. Have you ever noticed that it's much more Roger Roger versus Roger Roger? Like, yeah, it's much higher. [00:18:18] Speaker B: And I think they retconned that or whatever, because they noticed that the battle droids, because they were. They were basically a hive mind. They weren't as effective because they weren't soldiers. And soldiers have their own personality in their own mind, that they allowed them to have a little bit more personality, and that's why they kind of were a little bit different in the Clone wars and in attack of the clones. [00:18:39] Speaker A: I mean, I assume that's why they were able to act differently, but the voice change, I guess that kind of covers that too. Also, they're in Jedi survivor. [00:18:47] Speaker B: Yes, they are. [00:18:48] Speaker A: And they're hilarious. [00:18:49] Speaker B: They're so good. [00:18:50] Speaker A: They're my favorite part just to, like. [00:18:52] Speaker B: Sit and listen to their back. [00:18:53] Speaker A: That game is taking me so long, because every time I encounter a bad guy, I'm like, go on. [00:18:57] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:18:58] Speaker A: I would love to hear the hilarious. [00:18:59] Speaker B: Things for two to three minutes. They have full on conversations. [00:19:02] Speaker A: I just want to hear Matt Wood. Matt Wood for the whole game. [00:19:06] Speaker B: Just like, okay, yeah. Who also played Bib Fortuna in the mandalorian what post credits scene. [00:19:14] Speaker A: He's that bib. Yeah, but isn't that bib the same actor who played him in Phantom Menace? [00:19:20] Speaker B: Bib Fortuna and Odi Mandrill. [00:19:23] Speaker A: He's also Odie Mandrell. [00:19:24] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:19:25] Speaker A: Odie Mandrell is a smart. He's a racer. [00:19:28] Speaker C: Uh huh. Yeah. [00:19:28] Speaker A: He's a pod racer. [00:19:29] Speaker B: He's a podracer. We're big Podracer fans over here. [00:19:33] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:19:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Odie Mandrell think about very often, because I always kick his ass in racer revenge. [00:19:40] Speaker C: As you should. [00:19:41] Speaker A: Because. Yeah, I mean, what else? That's just all I'm saying. He's no tweet. He's no Ben Quadrant. Okay. Anyway. Okay, so back to this trailer. [00:19:50] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:19:51] Speaker A: We now have the next, very next shot as they're running away, is of a young Morgan Elsbeth. As far as I can tell, it looks like Morgan Elsbeth. I think so. With different markings on her face. This is the podcast, and I'm making the indications with my fingers, but she's got different markings on her face. But they are similar to the ones that show up on her face in Ahsoka when she gets blessed with the deep voice, which is. I'm sure there's a name for it, the mother voice. But she gets mother Talzin's deep, overarching voice, which also, Meryl has a little bit when she's doing her witch magic. [00:20:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:29] Speaker A: Which makes me really wonderful. I want to know who that is. [00:20:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:33] Speaker A: Like, who are we invoking? What weird elder Star Wars God is being invoked when we do that magic? And also, I'm here for any more information about Nightsister magic. [00:20:42] Speaker B: Oh, 100%. Like, give me a whole show on. Just, like, if you have the office based on Dathomir, I'm here for it. [00:20:48] Speaker C: Let's go. Please. [00:20:50] Speaker A: Not the office. Parks and rec. [00:20:52] Speaker C: My bad. [00:20:54] Speaker B: Anyways, we love Dathomir so much, and there's so much in there. [00:20:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:58] Speaker B: And which also makes me want to reread the courtship of Princess Leia, because that's that it came from expanded universe stuff, and that was the first appearance of it, I think. [00:21:07] Speaker A: So moving forward in this trailer, we see her with her nightsister stuff. I really. What I really want is something more like House of the dragon in Dathomir. [00:21:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:17] Speaker B: Okay. [00:21:18] Speaker A: Like, show me some power struggle of how mother Talzin, young mother Talzin, was she ever. She's like Bea Arthur. Was she ever actually young or Angela Lansbury. Like, Angela Lansbury looked like she was 60. I just imagine, like, young mother Talzin also still looks actually, she really does kind of look like Bea Arthur. [00:21:36] Speaker B: Kind of. [00:21:37] Speaker A: That's interest. [00:21:38] Speaker C: Okay. [00:21:38] Speaker A: I wonder who they based her on. They had to base her on something. Anyway, moving on, we see a forest fire. We see burning down. And actually, I don't think that this is happening on Dathomir. I think this is a shot of Morgan Elsbeth's. [00:21:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:52] Speaker A: Raising the ground somewhere when she punishes the people on the. This is probably the destruction of corvus forests. [00:21:58] Speaker B: I think so. [00:21:59] Speaker A: Because those are all burned to the ground. [00:22:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:01] Speaker B: But also, those troopers are very corvus trooper like. [00:22:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:04] Speaker A: They're also very empire era trooper like. [00:22:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, he's got an empire little emblem on there. [00:22:10] Speaker A: Yeah. And then we cut back to Dathomir where there are. Where there is no forest, where she is with the. The mountain, possibly mountain clans, the mountain clan of. [00:22:19] Speaker B: I didn't realize it because we didn't. Normally, I watch things with subtitles because adhd and audio, you know. But the good folk over at Star wars explained, did watch it and said, like, oh, these are like the mountain clan sisters. [00:22:30] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:22:31] Speaker A: These are a different brand of witches, which means that we get even more force users that aren't Jedi, that are so. Also aren't necessarily what we've seen before because we're getting a different brand of it. You know, it's like, like, don't get me wrong. I love a different type of Jedi. That's why I like way seekers. [00:22:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:22:52] Speaker A: You know, that's why I like the high republic. You give me new type of something. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Else, and, buddy, just wait for Battle of Jedi. [00:23:01] Speaker C: Oh. [00:23:01] Speaker A: Ii so excited. [00:23:02] Speaker B: So many different forces. [00:23:03] Speaker A: You want to hear me freak out about that? Go listen to our other podcast, the Starlight archive. It's way more organized than this episode is. So she falls to her knees. She's so upset, she grips the dust in her hand. She has no more of what may have been war paint in her face. She just has the little telltale dots of the little tattoo on the top of her head, which she had in Mando in the beginning of Ahsoka. She's having her little Furiosa moment of being angry. She looks out. She's so pissed. And then she punches the ground with her cool sister, cuts back to her, talking to Thrawn. And thrawn. Offer accepted. Says, offer accepted. [00:23:40] Speaker B: You're in. You're in the club. [00:23:41] Speaker C: The club. [00:23:42] Speaker A: Welcome to the cool Kids Club. And this is young thrawn. And if we are still considering the Thrawn trilogy by Tim Zahn in the current canon. Current canon. As long as that hasn't been somehow retconned, which, you know, I don't think it will be, they just. I just. [00:23:57] Speaker B: This probably happens just after the first Thrawn book. [00:24:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:00] Speaker A: We've just seen no hint of how the grisk are going to be handled because they're an obvious threat that he, that Tim Zahn was working toward for his storyline, and then he suddenly wasn't making Thrawn books anymore. And so we have this era post original trilogy. [00:24:18] Speaker B: Read the. The ascendancy books, which. [00:24:21] Speaker A: Fine, but, like, that's still the story at the end of Thrawn. Treason. [00:24:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:25] Speaker A: We have all of this looming threat to the empire that goes nowhere. [00:24:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:31] Speaker A: We sent off Eli Vanto with the sniveling right hand of. And then. Yeah, no risks. [00:24:39] Speaker B: He went back to the. To the chiss. [00:24:41] Speaker A: He went back. They both went back to the chiss. Ascendancy. [00:24:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:44] Speaker A: Yeah. So we never really got those stories concluded. But early Thrawn is really bad at politics and still rising very, very fast. But early thrawn, he gets to grand Admiral, I believe, by the end of the first book. [00:24:58] Speaker B: I think he might have. [00:24:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:00] Speaker A: You watch as the book goes on. That's like, okay, here he's this, and now he's a cadet rising, and you just. [00:25:07] Speaker B: And the emperor being like, what are you talking about? Oh, you're smart. [00:25:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:11] Speaker B: I need you on my side. [00:25:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:12] Speaker A: And the emperor doesn't trust him. [00:25:14] Speaker B: No. [00:25:14] Speaker A: And it's. It says as much at the end of thrawn treason. It really probably would have come down to people starting to follow thrawn or people following the emperor. [00:25:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:23] Speaker A: Like, there was very much that kind of concern. So this is sort of the beginning of him gaining this cult of personality. [00:25:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:31] Speaker A: Because those who didn't give a crap about politics. Did give a crap about thrawn. There's a reason his entire crew is fiercely loyal to him. [00:25:39] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:25:39] Speaker A: I mean, look at the crew that's on Ahsoka. They're all possibly dead. [00:25:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:44] Speaker B: They're all probably zombies, which means they're all. [00:25:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, they. At least the ones we saw that all got back up after the fight. [00:25:52] Speaker B: But even we see that in thrawn alliances when him and Vader palling around and Vader's like, your crews need to do this, this, and this, and thrawn's like. Or they're gonna do this, this, and this. They do what Thrawn says, and they, like, while they're scared of Vader, thrawn's their guy. [00:26:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:07] Speaker B: And they're gonna do anything that guy says. [00:26:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:09] Speaker A: No, they trust and respect him, but also same. [00:26:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:13] Speaker A: You know, they trust and respect thrawn so much that they know that if Thrawn's not afraid of Vader, they don't have to be. [00:26:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:21] Speaker A: Like, they know that they have to fear for their own personal lives, but they also know that it's gonna come down on thrawn because they also believe that Thrawn has their back. [00:26:28] Speaker C: Yes. [00:26:28] Speaker A: And he does, because he's a good leader. [00:26:30] Speaker C: Yes. [00:26:31] Speaker A: He's a really good leader. [00:26:32] Speaker B: He's probably the best leader in the empire. [00:26:34] Speaker A: Arguably. [00:26:35] Speaker B: Arguably, non arguably, he is. [00:26:37] Speaker A: And then barristuff. [00:26:39] Speaker C: Oh, that bitch. [00:26:40] Speaker A: We have clone wars troopers. [00:26:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:44] Speaker A: In the red clone trooper variant, if you will. Yeah, the garb. And we have. We have Obi Wan, fourth sister lady coming down the stairs going, hey, Barris, I have a unique opportunity for you. [00:26:57] Speaker C: I'm here to present you with an opportunity, Paris. [00:27:00] Speaker A: And then we have Barris still with her head wrapped as it was when she was a Jedi. [00:27:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:05] Speaker A: And she's like, hey, I've got a unique proposition for you, homie. [00:27:09] Speaker B: So she got captured somewhere at some point? Well, she was imprisoned. Yeah, yeah, she was imprisoned. [00:27:14] Speaker A: So she's probably just underneath the temple, which is crazy. [00:27:17] Speaker B: Like, how many people do they have underneath the temple in their jail cells, basically, yeah. [00:27:23] Speaker A: How long did that happen? [00:27:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:24] Speaker A: Because when they took over, what happened to all those people? [00:27:26] Speaker C: Mm hmm. [00:27:27] Speaker A: You know? [00:27:28] Speaker B: Well, the grand inquisitor would have known. Vader would have known. [00:27:31] Speaker A: The grand inquisitor would have taken them there himself. And what's super cool about this is that the grand inquisitor was present at Barrassofi's trial. [00:27:38] Speaker B: Yeah, we saw that in rebels. So he, that and that's why he kind of turned, because he saw how the. The council screwed over Ahsoka because of everything. Barristers. So, like, it's. We'll get to it. Or maybe we'll just get to it. [00:27:52] Speaker C: Now. [00:27:52] Speaker B: It's gonna be very interesting seeing how Vader and the grand inquisitor separately react to Barris. [00:27:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:59] Speaker A: Given that she's. Who. Given that she had a major part in both of their turning to the dark side. Yeah, because the inquisitor gives up on the Jedi and eventually. Which leads him to embracing the dark side, and Anakin loses everything. [00:28:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:15] Speaker A: Including Ahsoka during this crazy trial, which, if you've seen the supercut or if you paid really close attention during the siege of Mandalore, the absence of Ahsoka is a major factor in his inability to handle any of this. Yeah, because she's been gone for a year by the time this has all happened. I mean, not a year, but a while. [00:28:34] Speaker B: A decent amount of time. [00:28:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:35] Speaker A: Big chunk of time she's been off, you know, helping people in the sisters lower levels. [00:28:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:39] Speaker A: So Barris gets let go, and immediately we see her walking with purge troopers. They're in black. [00:28:45] Speaker B: Maybe it's just darker. [00:28:47] Speaker A: Okay, they look like purge troopers to me. But she's not wearing. [00:28:51] Speaker B: Yeah, this is a different scene. This is completely different. [00:28:53] Speaker A: Different shot. [00:28:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:55] Speaker B: So this really could be. [00:28:56] Speaker A: She's dressed. She was in white before. Now she's in black. [00:28:58] Speaker B: And her headdresses off. [00:29:00] Speaker A: And her hair. Yeah, and her headdresses off. [00:29:01] Speaker B: So in. In Charles Soules Darth Vader book, and in delight of Dawson's rise of the red Blade book, they show that the. The Inquisitor's original main base was on Coruscant. Oh, and then they move to the. [00:29:17] Speaker A: Fortress Inquisitorious on Nur. [00:29:21] Speaker B: Right, which we see in Jedi fallen order. [00:29:23] Speaker A: And we saw in the Obi wan show. [00:29:25] Speaker B: And we saw in the Obi Wan show. Oh, that was brutal. Yeah. So I wonder how much of this happens. [00:29:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Cause Terra Tinube is in there. [00:29:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:29:33] Speaker B: Oh, that poor guy. Anyways, I wonder how much of this is in either or both of episode one. [00:29:39] Speaker A: No, no. [00:29:40] Speaker B: Of just. [00:29:41] Speaker A: Oh, if this is on. [00:29:42] Speaker B: If this is on course on. Or if there's on nerd on main base and they. [00:29:48] Speaker A: Yeah, somebody saw clone. This is also when clones are still largely inside circulation. [00:29:52] Speaker B: Bradley Baker. Just be glad you're not a Jedi anymore. [00:29:57] Speaker C: Your path is set. [00:29:59] Speaker A: More D. Bradley Baker. But also early first season, bad batch, concurrent. [00:30:04] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:30:04] Speaker A: Because the clones are being phased out. [00:30:06] Speaker B: Very true. [00:30:07] Speaker A: By the end of that season, we got two stories, which we had two stories on Tales of the Jedi. So this makes sense. We're gonna get six episodes. But over the course of two whole stories, then we see Morgan Elsbeth with her cool sickles. And there's a line that they say, your path is set, Morgan Elsbeth. [00:30:28] Speaker B: That almost sounds like a. I don't think it's mother Talzin, but it could just be another witch of Dathomir. [00:30:36] Speaker A: When mother Talzin speaks, she always has. [00:30:39] Speaker B: The dis voice that echo, that deep. [00:30:41] Speaker A: Echo voice which Disney has been known to adjust certain things for trailers, but I don't see them doing that for this. Hiding Mother Talzin would be such a weird choice, I think. [00:30:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:54] Speaker A: But also, Mother Talzin is very dead at this point, so I think it's a mountain witch. [00:30:59] Speaker B: I. Yeah, I think so, too, which. [00:31:01] Speaker A: Makes me wonder, because. [00:31:03] Speaker B: Which I dig. If you. [00:31:04] Speaker A: If you read the Thrawn trilogy from Tim San in the current canon, again, bringing this back, if you've read that thrawn is sent there by the chiss ascendancy to get, like, quote, unquote captured so that he can infiltrate the empire, and repeatedly, his loyalty is called into question because they're like, yeah, you're on Dathomir. No, he's sent to the empire. Oh, he's sent to our galaxy. We skipped far, far away. [00:31:33] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:31:34] Speaker A: He, thrawn is sent to the empire to get, quote, unquote, captured within the empire so that he can impress them, rise among. Rise up amongst them, and his loyalty gets questioned all the way. And the emperor doesn't trust him. But the emperor also knows that he's still acting in favor of the empire, because, for the moment, the empire's needs to deal with the grisk and the chiss. And the chiss's wants to deal with the grisk are aligned. [00:32:05] Speaker C: Yes. [00:32:06] Speaker A: And thrawn says again and again, I've taken an oath I will not betray or I will. Like, my loyalty is to the empire. But there's very much this question by the chiss. When he finally gets to start working with all of the chiss that come into the Empire region and they start working together a little later on, there is this sort of remark of him being like, nothing I'm doing is betraying the chiss. [00:32:31] Speaker B: Right. [00:32:32] Speaker A: So he's very much good at being able to play both sides. [00:32:36] Speaker C: Right? [00:32:36] Speaker B: Which is why, in rebels, he was pushing so much for the Tie Defender project, because that's more. Instead he's pushing for the tie defenders instead of the Death Star because fighting the grisk rather than this huge planet destroying thing that's taken so many resources. [00:32:53] Speaker A: But also the Death Star is a threat to the chiss ascendance also that. [00:32:58] Speaker C: Yes. [00:32:58] Speaker A: And he kind of says as much. [00:33:00] Speaker C: Yes, he does. Yeah. [00:33:01] Speaker A: So it's interesting to see Morgan Elsbeth. I am. This has a point, I promise. It's interesting to see Morgan Elsbeth hearing something about her destiny, because it sounds like they are kind of building her to sort of infiltrate that the empire as well. And so in that early scene when she's talking to Thrawn, when she's like, my plan, everything was taken from me, yada, yada, yada. The empire basically is gonna provide me with what I need, and I have skills that they could use. And Thrawn's like, cool, got it. [00:33:32] Speaker B: Which is why they could be BFF's. [00:33:35] Speaker A: Which is why they could be. I think they're both working to their own goals. But I might very well be going, being a sort of unintentional mentor of this is how you get what you need out of the empire without or while still being in their good graces. [00:33:55] Speaker C: Yes. Yeah. [00:33:56] Speaker A: So I don't think that he would directly influence her that way. But I feel like going a little predictive fan theory here, though. I think Thrawn's general Mo within the empire and his brilliance will play into the way Morgan Elsbeth handles her own station within the empire, because when she comes up as the magistrate, like a magistrate, the empire uses governors. [00:34:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:22] Speaker A: What are you talking about? They use moffs. [00:34:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:24] Speaker A: Like, what is a magic doing, even. [00:34:26] Speaker B: And then towards the end of the Mando episode, Ahsoka's, though, like, where's your master? Where's Grand Admiral Thrawn? And you're like, oh, there's something bigger going on. [00:34:34] Speaker A: And that was a huge drop, too, to say grand Admiral Thrawn. [00:34:37] Speaker C: Uh huh. [00:34:37] Speaker A: So we see Morgan Elsbeth fighting with the sickles and on Dathomir, but if we look at these shots of her training and we look at these shots of her fighting, she ain't got no war paint on, right. Which really makes me wonder, is that her sister who died next to her? Oh, is that someone else? [00:34:59] Speaker C: It could be. [00:34:59] Speaker A: That looks like her because it's such a quick shot. [00:35:02] Speaker B: Unless it's just a two different timeframes. [00:35:05] Speaker A: I mean, maybe, but, like, that's clearly her or someone related to her. Yeah, she's got the same mouth. She's got the same eyes. She's got the same nose. That's. That's either her or maybe it's her mother. Oh, that'd be horrible. I don't know what familiar rollers are. [00:35:19] Speaker C: Could she be younger? [00:35:20] Speaker B: And then as she aged, she grew into her face kind of thing? [00:35:23] Speaker A: I mean, maybe we see her just tearing through battle droids with actual swords. [00:35:28] Speaker B: I'm so excited for this scene. [00:35:30] Speaker A: Like sickles. And then we see a ship come in, which. Is that a battle droid ship? [00:35:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:37] Speaker B: Or, no, that's a. That looks like a clone trooper. [00:35:40] Speaker A: It does. It looks like a clone trooper transport. So we're not sure what the clone trooper transport's doing. [00:35:45] Speaker B: That looks like a different thing altogether. [00:35:47] Speaker A: That explosion is. I don't think that explosion of what that ship allegedly shot. I don't think that's what. [00:35:55] Speaker B: These are three very different scenes. [00:35:57] Speaker A: Yes. And then we have cut together to look like one. [00:36:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:36:00] Speaker A: And we have her standing in the fire. Young. And then we have her standing in the fire. And that's. That is Corvus. [00:36:07] Speaker B: That definitely looks like Corvus. [00:36:08] Speaker A: That with the trees, forest. And they trick you because they show you the ship destroyed first so you don't put it together. But we watch things 17 times before we start talking about them because we have a problem. I mean, podcast. Sorry. So the ship she's walking away from will come up in just a second. The forest. Those are evergreens. That's not a dathomir. [00:36:30] Speaker B: No, not at all. [00:36:31] Speaker C: Not at all. [00:36:31] Speaker A: Dathomir is all weeping willows spookiness. She walks away one path. And then we see the inquisitor. [00:36:39] Speaker B: The grand inquisitor. [00:36:40] Speaker A: The grand inquisitor with his beautiful powin. Long head, oval head, ovular head. Not a basketball. A basketball. Followed by barriss, Alfie standing behind him. Mercy only breeds defeat. [00:36:57] Speaker C: But I will. [00:36:58] Speaker A: Help you overcome this. And then she's walking through. And I love brief aside from this analysis of this whole trailer, can we just take a moment to. To just bask and how good this song, this soundtrack is that they have incorporated the. The emergency Klaxon. Sound that into the actual song here. [00:37:21] Speaker C: Did they do that? [00:37:22] Speaker A: Listen to this. Listen to the track. Listen to the track that's playing here. Oh, they use it as a horn. [00:37:33] Speaker B: Yeah, they do. [00:37:35] Speaker A: Now we have a shot of so many lightsabers. Seven lightsabers. [00:37:39] Speaker B: Bryce, what did we do with this shot? A couple hours after this trailer came. [00:37:42] Speaker A: Out, immediately after we started doing our analysis. And probably somewhere. Yeah, probably a couple of hours, considering how many times we had to watch it. We pulled out the lightsaber. Had to. We pulled out the lightsaber book to see if any of these lightsabers were reminiscent of existing Jedi that we knew. [00:38:05] Speaker B: Right. [00:38:05] Speaker A: We know that none of them are identical to any in that book. [00:38:12] Speaker B: Right. [00:38:13] Speaker A: But, so if you look at the lightsabers on the table, there's a couple that look similar. None of them are identical to any in the Star wars lightsaber collection book that we pulled out. Yeah, but I love that book so much. We have handful that are potential variations on lightsabers we've already seen. [00:38:34] Speaker C: Right. [00:38:35] Speaker A: Which lightsabers? We lose lightsabers in the Clone wars all the time. [00:38:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:38] Speaker A: Because we're still operating on kind of on guardian protocols for lightsaber hilts. [00:38:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:45] Speaker A: Which I don't know if we're still under the Guardian protocols during that time or if they just sort of didn't branch back out, which wouldn't surprise me. [00:38:53] Speaker B: And that's kind of coming up in the the living force book from John Jackson Miller just came out last week. [00:38:59] Speaker A: Nice. [00:39:00] Speaker B: This week. What is time? Anyways, real quick. So the Guardian protocols are what Yoda enacts in the high Republic when everything's going wrong with the galaxy and they need the Jedi all in kind of one spot to regroup and restrategize what they're going to do against the nihil. [00:39:19] Speaker A: Also known as the great Jedi fire drill. [00:39:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:24] Speaker A: Everybody go out onto the field so that we're not in the classrooms while everything's burning, basically. [00:39:28] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:39:29] Speaker B: So the, that's kind of still going on at this time. During the Clone wars and during the prequels, most of the Jedi are stationed on Coruscant in the great Jedi temple there. Whereas before, there's hundreds of Jedi temples throughout the galaxy there that are manned by anywhere from like five to 20 Jedi in each. [00:39:47] Speaker A: Right. [00:39:48] Speaker B: And they help out in the systems instead of where they are in the. Around the prequel era is where they get a call and then from Coruscant they just go to a planet. [00:39:58] Speaker A: Right. And the key thing that I bring up the Guardian protocols for is that the Guardian protocols was very much a for a function over form system for lightsabers. The expectation was that we were losing lightsabers fast. So while it was important to have a lightsaber that felt right for you and that Doctor Huyang helped you get the right lightsaber that was for the right. Sorry, professor. [00:40:21] Speaker B: He's a doctor now. [00:40:22] Speaker A: Professor Hu Yang, thank you. Sorry. He may have his doctorate. He might only have a master's degree at a junior college. I don't know. Maybe he is only at a junior college. [00:40:30] Speaker B: He is the doctor, so it's fine. [00:40:31] Speaker A: That also might be part of why this happens. [00:40:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:33] Speaker A: Anyway, Professor Hu Yang will give you your lightsaber as it is supposed to be because, you know, it feels more you. That's why you choose your emitter. It's why you choose your parts. [00:40:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:43] Speaker A: But the ornate forging and making it really fancy isn't something that's happening. So parts are being swapped, and there are a lot of lightsabers are being, you know, swapped regularly, and you might do a little adjustment because you happen to like something more. You've changed a little bit, that kind of thing. So we have a few contenders in this list. One of them is syndralic, who we saw in, like, one episode of the Clone wars. He does the lightsaber training, the leader. [00:41:07] Speaker B: Of the Temple guards, which would be. [00:41:10] Speaker A: Horrible, especially if the grand inquisitor, like, maybe took him and bled his crystal. [00:41:15] Speaker B: Yeah, which. But also would make sense. So Syndroic is the. He's the head of the Temple guards. He trains them all. Semi side story. He's actually. So he's actually Nick Gillard, who is the stunt. He's the stunt guy. [00:41:27] Speaker A: Drawling Gillard. Yeah, it's an homage to him. Yeah, Nick sin. Got it. [00:41:31] Speaker C: Yep. [00:41:31] Speaker A: It's his name backwards. [00:41:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:33] Speaker A: Okay. [00:41:33] Speaker C: Yeah, so he's. [00:41:34] Speaker B: He's the. The. [00:41:35] Speaker A: He's the one who trained all of the actors. [00:41:37] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool. [00:41:39] Speaker B: Yeah, he's the stunt director. Stunt coordinator. [00:41:42] Speaker A: Gotcha. [00:41:42] Speaker B: Badass all around. If you see any behind the scenes featurettes of lightsaber training, that's Nick Gillard. [00:41:48] Speaker A: Who plays Sid during the prequels. [00:41:51] Speaker B: During the prequels. [00:41:52] Speaker C: Yes. Sorry. Yeah, yes. Yeah. [00:41:53] Speaker A: Anyways, so another possible contender is Shaak T. Shaak t's got a saber that has that same tapered hilt, but it doesn't have the same switch. Has a pretty similar emitter, though. And then one of them might be barra selfies. [00:42:07] Speaker B: Yeah, a little hard to tell. [00:42:09] Speaker A: It's possible. [00:42:09] Speaker B: It's possible. [00:42:10] Speaker A: We don't know what happened to her saber. We don't know what happens to sabers of Jedi who turn against the order at all. Like, what happened to Ahsoka's sabers? She gave them to Anakin. [00:42:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:23] Speaker A: And that is the only time we've seen a Jedi surrender their weapon. [00:42:27] Speaker C: Right. [00:42:28] Speaker A: You know, give me your badge and your gun. [00:42:30] Speaker C: You're out of here. [00:42:31] Speaker A: You're suspended. Four weeks with. With pay. [00:42:34] Speaker B: Too much of a high head. [00:42:36] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:42:37] Speaker B: And then Anakin kept her lightsabers, so, like, we really don't know. [00:42:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:41] Speaker A: So it's possible that those were just in the temple, because I imagine this, if it's not happening on Fortress Acquisitorius, it's happening in the Jedi temple, which means that we might get to see the Jedi temple get converted back into a big galactic. [00:42:54] Speaker B: Into the emperor palace. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Yeah, the imperial palace. [00:42:58] Speaker B: Oh, my God, that'd be amazing. [00:43:00] Speaker A: Yeah, that'd be super cool. Okay, so we see all these, and then the inquisitor does little, pulls a saber towards himself. Two paths to the dark side. And he hands her a saber and tells her she has to overcome something. I will help you overcome this weakness. We have her with a green lightsaber. It might be her lightsaber. It might be one of those, you know, destroy yourself kind of thing. Could be only what you take with you. So she goes in, she starts fighting, and the grand inquisitor is just like, WHOOP, dodge, WHOOP, dodge. [00:43:30] Speaker B: Matrixy kind of stuff. [00:43:31] Speaker A: WHOOP, stop trying to hit me. And hit me. And then he throws her with the Force up to the ceiling, and then she falls, and it's like, oh, this is gonna be rough. And then she's got blood dripping down her nose, which. When do we get to see blood in Star wars? [00:43:46] Speaker B: Very rarely. [00:43:47] Speaker A: Very rarely. [00:43:48] Speaker B: Nice. [00:43:48] Speaker A: This is quite nice. [00:43:50] Speaker B: It's real. [00:43:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Then we have a shot of training. [00:43:55] Speaker B: Center or a barracks, possibly coruscant. I feel like we've seen this, though. [00:43:59] Speaker A: This looks like outer main city Coruscant because you can see the stacks and. [00:44:04] Speaker B: It'S a little more industrialized. [00:44:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, a little more industrialized. Like where we went for Yaddle's face off with Dooku. And then we see a shot of some people yelling at the magistrate. She's got her Beskar staff. [00:44:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:18] Speaker B: In the same place that we've seen in Mandalorian. [00:44:22] Speaker A: This is the magistrate's house. [00:44:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:25] Speaker A: With the water in the ground and all the. Beautiful. [00:44:26] Speaker B: My favorite set from that show. Oh, so beautiful. [00:44:30] Speaker A: So good. [00:44:31] Speaker B: There's fish in the pond they put in there, and it was so clear. And the lightsaber fight with the magistrate and. Ugh, one of my favorites. [00:44:40] Speaker A: Then we see some HK droids, and she says everything has a cost. [00:44:46] Speaker C: Everything comes at a cost. [00:44:48] Speaker B: So you see wing over on the side there. So this must be. [00:44:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:52] Speaker B: So wing is the governor of the city of Caladan on Corvus. And so this almost looks like this is early on, obviously, before the mandalorian episode. [00:45:04] Speaker A: Right. I wonder if she is the current governor and he hasn't, like, gone, become one yet, and that she's still part of what the empire has started off on. [00:45:16] Speaker C: Could be. [00:45:17] Speaker A: So she's, like, taken over, and she's like, I'm here to watch you for the empire. And they're kind of, like. [00:45:22] Speaker B: Right, but we have our own government. [00:45:24] Speaker A: We have our own government. [00:45:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:25] Speaker A: So I guess we answer to you. [00:45:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:27] Speaker A: Now, maybe, which would make sense. I don't know what species this is, but this character seems a little concerned for their. Their plans for the city and. And why they're not getting enough supplies and why things are too expensive. She said everything comes at a cost. And then she busts out her Beskar spear. Yeah, they have a conflict. And then we see the ship from the burning forest blow up right in the face of that new alien that we don't know whether she survives or not. Or he survives or not. We do not know. Or they survive or not. Then we see a shot of grievous coming at who we assume is a young Morgan Elsbeth, ready to come hunt her down, which I'm always here for. More grievous, always. And then she turns around. She's still got her sickles. [00:46:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:16] Speaker B: And now they're glowing. [00:46:17] Speaker A: So she's got some nightsister magic going on here. Oh, yeah, look at that. [00:46:21] Speaker B: Holding her own like a badass. [00:46:22] Speaker A: Mm hmm. And then we see them running out to face. So we're just more siege of Dathomir. [00:46:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:29] Speaker A: Super battle droids dropping out. And then we see the fourth sister from Obi Wan with her lightsaber. With her spinning inquisitor. Lightsaber. [00:46:37] Speaker B: Yeah, as they do. [00:46:38] Speaker A: And this is cool. A fight between her and some Rando Jedi. [00:46:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it's kind of hard to see who it is. Oh, but it looks like Barris. That might be Barris running into the fight. [00:46:49] Speaker A: Barris is running towards the fight, and we're seeing this character fight. We see some sort of big hulk clap. [00:46:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:59] Speaker A: Action. Big, bright blue explosion. Nothing. No Easter eggs or anything. Then we see the inquisitor standing next to the fourth sister, going, hey, Barristafi. And other candidate. It's time for your final test. Here's one. Lightsaber, don't die. [00:47:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:16] Speaker A: Now you must face one final test to join us. [00:47:21] Speaker B: Winner wins. [00:47:23] Speaker A: They have a ring around them, which I imagine will slowly shrink down fortnite style. It's cage match. [00:47:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:30] Speaker A: And then the inquisitor says, it's time you meet your new master. In walks Darth Vader. [00:47:46] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, he does. [00:47:47] Speaker A: And Barriss is, of course, the first to kneel. Right behind her is somebody who looks exactly like Marek, which we all know is Corki, Obi Wan and Satine's illegitimate son. [00:47:59] Speaker B: Nephew. [00:48:00] Speaker A: Sure. Have you heard the theory that Corky is. Actually. [00:48:06] Speaker B: No. [00:48:08] Speaker A: He went away. He wouldn't have known. [00:48:10] Speaker B: The math doesn't work, but okay, I'm here for it. [00:48:12] Speaker A: Why not? Why wouldn't the math work? Corky's, like, 14. Yeah, Obi Wan and her were banging when he was like a padawan, but, yeah, and he was a Padawan for, like, ever. [00:48:23] Speaker C: Forever. [00:48:24] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe Mandalorians native to Mandalore age faster. Anyway, we know it's quirky. It doesn't matter if it's Obi Wan's kid or not. We know it's corki because Corki is Merrick. It sounds just like it. It's the stupidest fan theory I've ever come up with, and I'm so proud of it, and I don't need to be, and I shouldn't be. Anyway, we see the unnamed inquisitor from Tales of the Jedi Ahsoka episodes, and then in front, we see the fourth sister, who does not kneel first. But Barris is like, I'm a kneel. I'm a kneel first. And I'm going to kneel so hard. And then out walks mister light bright chest himself, Darth Vader, which I'm super curious about, because Anakin was very dissatisfied with Barris. [00:49:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:22] Speaker A: Dissatisfied is such an understatement. Anakin. It broke Anakin's heart. [00:49:26] Speaker B: He wasn't happy. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Yeah, he was definitely gonna write a bad review on Yelp about the Jedi temple. Anakin. Anakin. The beginning of Anakin's disillusionment with the council, I think, really starts with that. I think the whole purpose of that story, aside from we gotta figure out what the hell to do with Ahsoka. [00:49:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:45] Speaker A: Is to show Anakin going, it's one thing to disagree with the council on battle tactics and do my own thing, but I don't think he has ever truly felt like they did not know what the hell they were doing until that point. [00:50:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:01] Speaker A: Like, Barriss offee's betrayal is not only a symptom of something greater, which it wouldn't surprise me at all if she had been fed information from somebody via Palpatine either. That made her kind of question where she was going. But Barriss hatred of the war and the points she was making weren't entirely wrong. She made a lot of good points. Her way of bringing that up to the council was absolutely not okay. [00:50:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:28] Speaker B: No, no, no. [00:50:29] Speaker A: But I think that's kind of the point where Anakin goes, you're like, you guys are full of shit. You guys don't actually know what you're doing. [00:50:35] Speaker B: What the fuck you guys actually doing? [00:50:36] Speaker A: And Ahsoka, who he trusts pretty implicitly, given that she is his padawan. [00:50:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:41] Speaker A: Says, this is enough that I don't want to be a part of this anymore. [00:50:44] Speaker B: She's like, I'm out. [00:50:45] Speaker A: And she walks away, and she gives him. She gives Anakin her sabers, as we said. And this is the start. This is a key factor in both Vader and the inquisitor's turn to the dark side, as we said earlier. So I'm interested to see grand inquisitor. Yeah, the grand inquisitor. Sorry, I keep forgetting that grand. It's very important. Much like that Admiral Thrawn, but only one barus. I'm very curious to see what will happen with Barris and Vader. [00:51:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. I mean, I'm excited for both stories, but, like, we've been. We don't know what's happened with her since that went down in season five. [00:51:21] Speaker A: Nope. [00:51:21] Speaker B: Which was 2007. [00:51:24] Speaker A: It was 2016 for me. [00:51:25] Speaker B: Six. [00:51:26] Speaker A: Yeah, no, no, it was 2016 for me because I didn't. I didn't watch that episode when it came out. [00:51:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:32] Speaker B: The last arc was in 2013. [00:51:34] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's been eleven years of not knowing where. [00:51:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:39] Speaker B: What's going on. [00:51:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:40] Speaker A: Barrissofi has been. And then we see that tales of the Jedi burns out into the tales of the Empire original shorts available May 4. [00:51:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:52] Speaker A: And you hear that Klaxon again that, like, towards the end. Can we just listen to that now? [00:51:56] Speaker B: Intense and epic. [00:51:59] Speaker C: Long live the empire. [00:52:10] Speaker A: The next question is, is the 7th sister, Sarah Michelle Geller's character, is she going to have a story? [00:52:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Interesting. [00:52:23] Speaker A: Does she have a part in this? Will we see her? Will we see the fourth brother? Will we see. [00:52:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:52:30] Speaker A: Will we see the fourth brother? Will we see the 9th sister? Will we see the second sister? The third sister? [00:52:38] Speaker B: We know some of them join a little bit later on. Some of them are a little bit sooner. Some of them, like, flank out, and some of them die early. [00:52:45] Speaker A: There is a fan theory that's running around right now that Sarah Michelle Geller's 7th sister is who barrissofi ends up becoming. It would mean removing her face tattoos and putting on new face tattoos, and I don't necessarily see that. I don't see that happening. [00:53:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:02] Speaker A: Mary Allens get their tattoos early, real early, like, within the first couple of years of life. [00:53:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:08] Speaker A: It's them and pantorans, and they don't look that similar. She has that weird modulation in her voice, so unless she gets severely injured. [00:53:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:17] Speaker A: It doesn't really make sense. If she removed her tattoos and then put on new tattoos out of some sort of choice to become a new person, you know, that might be a thing, but I don't really see that. But I wonder if that was a running theory when rebels was coming out, that the 7th sister was actually Barris. [00:53:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:43] Speaker A: And maybe there's just a few people holding out hope for that, but stranger theories have come true. I mean, Garnet was two people in Steven universe, and everybody said those people were crazy, so. [00:53:53] Speaker B: So, looks like, according to Wookiepedia, the individual who. Who became known as the 7th sister was born on the planet Mariel. She's Mary Ellen, so. She is. Mary Allen was later found by the Jedi in Ultimate Star wars new edition, and then she was trained by Grandmaster Yoda from the dark side pocket expert. And then at one point, the Mary Ellen trained with master Ayla Secura. [00:54:16] Speaker A: She was Ayla's. [00:54:17] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:54:18] Speaker B: Okay. And that was talked about in Rise of the red blade, which was just out last July, which was fantastic. Oh, my God. I love that book. So, I mean, it's possible that they could adjust some things visually, but also could just be possible that, like, Vader kills Barris. Like, I know who you are. [00:54:37] Speaker A: Like, Vader finds a way to get her killed. [00:54:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:40] Speaker B: Or just does it himself. [00:54:41] Speaker A: That's a very real thing. [00:54:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:43] Speaker A: Her running out to the fourth sister to, like, go help in the fight could be the moment when she realizes that she might not like the Jedi, but she definitely doesn't need to be this. [00:54:55] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:54:56] Speaker A: Could be a little bit of a redemption arc for her. [00:54:58] Speaker B: Could be she just runs off and disappears. [00:55:01] Speaker A: Oh, God, I hope she doesn't run off and disappear. I would rather she die. [00:55:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:55:05] Speaker A: Not because I hate her, which I do, but because that would be so unsatisfying to be like, nope. You still don't know what happened to bear. [00:55:13] Speaker B: Like, oh, just. Okay. [00:55:16] Speaker A: Hopefully we get some yaddle force ghost that's more. I want more. Just more yaddle all the time. I would really like to see some sort of retelling of how she got here, like, what happened the day she got found out at the trial after framing Ahsoka. [00:55:33] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:55:33] Speaker A: I would love it if we start there. So, yeah, there's a couple fan theories about what happens with that. There's a couple fan theories about what happens with the magistrate, I'm sure. You know me, I'm not super big on fan theories. [00:55:43] Speaker B: Yeah, same. We don't do fan theories. [00:55:45] Speaker A: So what do you want to see in this? [00:55:47] Speaker B: So I don't know what I want to see, but it would be really cool if. Cause they do mention that Morgan Elsbeth, she's on a path. [00:55:56] Speaker C: Your path is set, Morgan Elspeth. [00:55:59] Speaker A: Right. [00:56:00] Speaker B: So does this mean they're gonna mention. [00:56:02] Speaker A: Peridia or that sect of nightsisters? [00:56:05] Speaker B: Yeah, or that og sect of nightsisters from a different whole galaxy? Like, we're gonna get little hints of. [00:56:10] Speaker A: That have those nights because those night sisters have reached out to her in some way through the force or something. [00:56:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:18] Speaker A: I wonder if the mountain clan has some sort of either connection to them or feels that the only way that the Nightsisters will be able to survive is if they go to get them. Yeah, and the only way they'll have those means is if they have access to the empire. [00:56:36] Speaker B: Right. Or if something is gonna connect it to the larger filoniverse movie that's gonna start with Mando and Grogu. [00:56:44] Speaker A: Right. [00:56:45] Speaker B: And maybe we're gonna get little hints of whatever's gonna happen with that whole thing. I'm just excited to see where the barrist storyline goes and just the inquisitorious, because I freaking love that stuff, especially after reading Rise of the red blade, like, right. That that book came out of nowhere, and it's probably one of my top five favorites right now. [00:57:02] Speaker C: Wow. [00:57:03] Speaker B: Yeah, it was fan freaking tastic. [00:57:05] Speaker A: Wow. [00:57:06] Speaker B: And honestly, this is a good time to catch up on that and read that before that comes out because it's gonna give us some good backstory and good context to what's been going on in and around Kerr and in the Coruscant training facility for the Inquisitors. [00:57:22] Speaker A: Right. [00:57:23] Speaker B: And, yeah, so good. So good. [00:57:26] Speaker A: Nice. Might be nice to take a break from the high Republic for a brief moment for myself. [00:57:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, I think that's it. I'm just excited for. For this show. The first. The first season. Well, if it's even the first season, like, are we gonna actually get a second season of Tales of the Jedi? Is this a spin off? Is this an actual season two? Like, are they planning on more Tales series? Like, are we gonna get tales of. [00:57:53] Speaker A: The rebellion, tales of tales of resistance? [00:57:55] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:57:56] Speaker B: Tales of the New Republic. Hell, we can even do, like, tales of rogue squadron, Tales of the High Republic. You know, there's so much room for activities. [00:58:05] Speaker A: Yes. Truly. [00:58:07] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:58:07] Speaker A: So I would like another season of Tales of the Jedi. [00:58:11] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:58:12] Speaker A: Burning out Tales of the Jedi to make tales of the empire feels like a very strong choice to say that this is part of a greater tales. [00:58:19] Speaker B: And they did something similar with Clone wars and a bad batch. [00:58:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:23] Speaker A: They use that same burning kind of thing for the. The new color for bad batch or for the. For the bad batch logo. [00:58:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:28] Speaker B: Is this just a sequel or this a whole new series? I don't know. Either way, I'm still happy with it. [00:58:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:38] Speaker A: Because the bad batch was a whole new series, but it also is kind of just really small scale clone wars. [00:58:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:49] Speaker A: Anyways, it doesn't open the same, you know, a galaxy and peril, etc. But anything else? [00:58:55] Speaker B: I don't know. You got anything else? [00:58:58] Speaker A: I'm. I'm so far up Thrawn's ass, like, yep. [00:59:02] Speaker B: Aren't we all? [00:59:03] Speaker A: I I love grand Admiral Thrawn, seeing Admiral Thrawn at this age, seeing him, because the first Thrawn book, I loved the first thrawn. [00:59:12] Speaker B: Oh, it's so good. [00:59:12] Speaker A: I loved it so much. I wasn't as big on alliances, and I think that was just because it was in so many places simultaneously. [00:59:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:59:22] Speaker A: And I think it took me a little too long to read it. And treason I really liked. But treason was one of those. Wait, that's it. [00:59:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:59:30] Speaker A: Kind of endings, because then it's supposed to. [00:59:32] Speaker B: That. See that the end of that book led right into his appearances in rebels. [00:59:37] Speaker A: Right. But then we don't. But for me, because those books built up so much about the ascendancy and Eli Vanto and all those other things. As satisfying as it was to go. Okay, now I know exactly what happened just before he arrives on Lothal and gets taken away by the pergol. [00:59:55] Speaker B: What's up with everything else? [00:59:56] Speaker A: I. Where's Eli Vanto? [00:59:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:59:58] Speaker A: Where's the chiss ascendancy? Where are the grisk? Where all the. Because the grisk, in a lot of ways, are very similar to the nihil in that kind of. [01:00:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:07] Speaker A: Knowing what a grisk looks like is really hard because so many things can. [01:00:12] Speaker B: Be right here somewhere. [01:00:13] Speaker A: The grisk. [01:00:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:15] Speaker A: You know, like, yes, there is a species for the grisk, but, like, they're very welcoming. They wear masks, and they're also very welcoming of other species. [01:00:22] Speaker C: Yeah, they are. [01:00:22] Speaker A: You can just join the grisk and be a grisk. You know, it's like America. You can. You can become an american. You can become a grisk. [01:00:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:29] Speaker A: You know, for freedom or something or whatever, you know. So there's a lot about how that story concluded that I felt needed more, and I would like more of that, and I would really like to see Filoni take on at least some aspect of that or let Tim Zahn write some more books in that series. [01:00:47] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:00:48] Speaker A: Something has to happen because there's a whole era of. What was the empire dealer set up to deal with this? Yeah. That said young Thrawn. [01:00:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:56] Speaker A: And his art of war chapter starting story, like, little. Little notes of what a love those we talked about. [01:01:03] Speaker B: Like, we just get all those together or just. Can Tim Zahn just write an art of war from Thrawn's point of view? [01:01:10] Speaker A: I would. I mean, I I all but asked him to do it. [01:01:12] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:01:13] Speaker A: When I talked to him at Ontario Comic con two years ago. [01:01:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:17] Speaker B: We'll talk him again when we see him next month. [01:01:19] Speaker A: Morthron. I know this is the magistrate's story. More thrawn. [01:01:23] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [01:01:24] Speaker A: I'm very excited to see Diana Lee and Assanto come back. I want more thrawn. [01:01:29] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:01:30] Speaker A: I'm very excited to see more nightsisters. [01:01:33] Speaker C: Yes. [01:01:34] Speaker A: I still want more thrawn. [01:01:37] Speaker B: Bryce just wants the tales of Admiral Thrawn. [01:01:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:40] Speaker A: I want tales of Admiral Thrawn. [01:01:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:42] Speaker A: Give me. Give me the entire thrawn first book in clone wars animation style. Or give me more than four issues. Marvel. Yeah, it was. So you can't take a story that. [01:01:54] Speaker B: It wrapped up this week and it just ended. I'm like, oh, you can't do that. [01:02:00] Speaker A: No, I'm sorry. I don't care if you make a slightly thicker book. It's not enough. [01:02:04] Speaker B: And I think some of them weren't even. I think this last issue was just a normal sized issue, which is 28 pages or whatever. 32, yeah. [01:02:11] Speaker A: Somewhere between 26 and 32. [01:02:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:02:13] Speaker A: If you take. If you don't count the ads. [01:02:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:02:18] Speaker C: It was good. [01:02:19] Speaker B: But it was also, like, four issues. What are you doing? [01:02:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:02:21] Speaker A: Now, that being said, ignoring my loves of my love of thrawn, et cetera, I just realized they're looking out at evergreens, and she's got her staff already. [01:02:30] Speaker C: Mm hmm. [01:02:32] Speaker A: I think she's already on corvus. [01:02:34] Speaker C: Could be. [01:02:34] Speaker A: When this conversation happened yeah. So we'll see. [01:02:38] Speaker B: I think so early on before they burn it down. [01:02:41] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe at this is the point that he's like, okay, so you're in the empire. What do you have to offer? [01:02:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:02:50] Speaker A: Me points at himself. The empire. [01:02:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [01:02:54] Speaker A: Winks. [01:02:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:02:56] Speaker A: Not that thrawn has any idea how to be subtle that way. Or wink. The man is a very much a straight shooter, but yeah, he. He's on a fact finding mission, I think, for himself at this point. [01:03:07] Speaker C: Yeah, makes sense. [01:03:08] Speaker A: But this is. This is during the time when Thrawn is constantly, quote, unquote, screwing up in the eyes of the senate, in the eyes of the ISB, everything. And every time he screws up, they're like. And he went in to get court martialed and he came out promoted. [01:03:23] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:03:24] Speaker A: Like, over failing over and over. This is also the point where he had. Where he's training Eli Vanto. He and Eli Vanto are like buddies at this point. [01:03:32] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [01:03:32] Speaker B: So we could see him on. [01:03:33] Speaker A: Oh, my God, I would love to see that southern voiced sweetheart, junk collecting, all junk collecting, junk organizing pack rat. [01:03:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:03:47] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Yes, please, if I. If I could have one absurd wish for this entire series is just give me some link to Tim's on stories. [01:03:57] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:03:58] Speaker A: I'm sure they. Some link in there. [01:03:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:00] Speaker A: That makes me go, okay, cool. We are acknowledging that. [01:04:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:03] Speaker A: And if that link is Eli Vento, I will literally cry. Anyway, so that's it. That's basically all we have to say about this. There's not a whole lot shown in this that isn't just regular of Star wars stuff. Nothing we're seeing other than maybe Marek and that other inquisitor that, you know, you might have. I'm sure there's another video out there that's like 46 Easter eggs you missed. But the reality is, is the only, like, real. Oh, my God. Are the lightsabers and seeing those inquisitors and seeing wing. [01:04:34] Speaker C: Mm hmm. [01:04:34] Speaker B: Wing, why? [01:04:36] Speaker A: Because he's from something else that we already know. Oh, he's just sort of a. Oh, yeah, that's that guy from the other thing. It's your Leonardo DiCaprio moment, I guess. [01:04:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:47] Speaker A: Like, he's the. [01:04:48] Speaker C: Oh, that's the. [01:04:48] Speaker A: Everything else we. I mean, yeah, we see thrawn. [01:04:52] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [01:04:53] Speaker A: We see the magistrate get the witches and the witches, extra witches. The mountain witches, I guess that's a big one. The mountain clan witches. But beyond that, nothing else. The HK units from the magistrates area, we know that's all in that same magistrate area. Seeing wing, for me, was cool because it's a nice link to the actual story. In Mandalorian, you didn't get really a whole lot of him, but he has a really good arc in that episode, but not necessarily a lot of substance as far as who he is. [01:05:22] Speaker C: True. Yeah. [01:05:23] Speaker A: So that'll be nice. [01:05:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:05:24] Speaker B: We know the. The people of the city love him, and they respect him, and he's still trying to do good, but he knows he's got to play the game. [01:05:32] Speaker A: Yep. And Thrawn is terrible at playing the game, so it'll be interesting to see if they can. Thrawn is terrible at playing the game this early on. [01:05:40] Speaker B: Definitely. [01:05:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:05:41] Speaker A: He's terrible at playing the game till he dies. He has no patience for the game. [01:05:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:05:45] Speaker A: That's why Tarkin takes advantage of him. It's why the tie defender project doesn't get off the ground. [01:05:49] Speaker B: True. Yeah. [01:05:50] Speaker A: All the way up to treason. Thrawn sucks at playing politics and even is here for war and being a soldier. [01:05:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:05:56] Speaker B: And even in the OG Thrawn trilogy, pretty similar. [01:05:59] Speaker A: He doesn't give a shit about politics, and I think that's why so many people respect him. I think that's why he has this cult following of these various moff. Gideon. [01:06:09] Speaker B: That sounds familiar. [01:06:10] Speaker A: People. But he. He's not. Oh. Oh, that level. [01:06:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:14] Speaker A: He's smart, Brian. [01:06:16] Speaker C: Yes. That's why. Yeah. [01:06:17] Speaker B: Similar. Not the same. [01:06:19] Speaker A: No. But I think the reason Thrawn has this cult following of these people who want to put him in power is because they know that he will get things done. [01:06:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:27] Speaker A: And that he doesn't play politics. [01:06:29] Speaker C: He. [01:06:30] Speaker A: And he doesn't care about himself. [01:06:31] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:06:32] Speaker A: He's not some selfish a hole. He's not some guy who's spending tons of resources trying to clone himself because he's afraid of dying. [01:06:41] Speaker C: Right. Yeah. [01:06:42] Speaker A: You know, he's just trying to win and come out on top. [01:06:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:49] Speaker A: And that winning and coming out on. [01:06:50] Speaker B: Top and protecting his people at the. [01:06:52] Speaker A: Same time is being recognized. It's why he keeps getting accidentally. That's why he keeps falling into promotions. [01:06:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:57] Speaker A: Because they go. Right, so he didn't follow orders, but his orders were stupid. [01:07:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:07:03] Speaker A: Or, yeah, he didn't follow orders, but those orders were intentionally to sabotage him. [01:07:08] Speaker C: Right. [01:07:09] Speaker A: Or. But now we have three extra planets, like. Like Thrawn has. [01:07:14] Speaker B: He wins. [01:07:15] Speaker A: He wins. Thrawn wins. He gets shit done. Which I'm excited to hopefully see the magistrate kind of learn from that, because that makes her an even bigger threat. But she also died in Ahsoka. So. [01:07:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm glad they're bringing her back for this, though. [01:07:28] Speaker A: I'm glad they're bringing her back for this. But also, do we need more backstory for character? We know she's gonna die when we're growing this other thing, which means it's. [01:07:37] Speaker B: Got something to do with growing the other thing. So, yeah. What did y'all think of the trailer? [01:07:40] Speaker A: Yeah, please. 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