BONUS! Ahsoka Essentials and why Chopper is your new favorite

September 08, 2023 00:53:45
BONUS! Ahsoka Essentials and why Chopper is your new favorite
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BONUS! Ahsoka Essentials and why Chopper is your new favorite

Sep 08 2023 | 00:53:45

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Bryce Rankins Bryan Romero

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So it turns out Ahsoka is your new favorite... or maybe it's Sabine... if it's neither it's obviously Chopper. The problem is, you wanna learn more but you don't know where to start. We have excellent news for you! Bryce hit record right as he and Bryan were discussing this exact subject and before you could say Follow the white Loth-cat, a bonus episode was formed. We go through some of the key moments to watch without being too spoilery! What episodes do you think are quintessential Ahsoka plot points?
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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Like, rogue one comes out and. [00:00:06] Speaker B: Oh. [00:00:06] Speaker A: My mic is way over here. So rogue one comes out, right? And it's like, we already saw how return of the Jedi ends, but now we're getting this one prequel, and then they're like, oh, hey, here's rebels. Like, it's just a different. It's the same time. Yeah, but it's a different segment. Different segment. [00:00:24] Speaker B: You. [00:00:25] Speaker A: Yeah, you know, but, like, jumping back again, and we're jumping back again. So even. Hell, even clone wars, you're like, okay, let's go back to that era again and see this difference. [00:00:34] Speaker C: Why do I care? [00:00:35] Speaker A: So you could go, okay, here's the main Ahsoka line. Oh, hey, I'm curious about that, plo kunga. Kind of like when you were giving me comics where it's like, hey, I want to know who this dude in space is fighting the super scroll. And you're like, that's Nova. And you're about to get into the annihilation conquest. Have fun. But, like this, you could go, hey, let's just watch the Ahsoka stuff. Oh, cool. I like Plo Koon more now, but you don't necessarily have to go through the whole thing. [00:01:02] Speaker C: That's what I always tell people, like, when they start clone wars. [00:01:05] Speaker A: I mean, hell, we did that, right? We got to the end of Clone wars, and then, oh, that fan should be off. I mean, we're recording right now, but we got to the end of Clone wars, and then six, seven years later, they're like, by the way, you got more clone wars. [00:01:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:01:21] Speaker A: Go watch Revenge of the sith again. [00:01:23] Speaker C: Well, even then, because we got season six before we got season seven, and season six was three or four years after. [00:01:30] Speaker B: Oh, shit. Yeah. [00:01:31] Speaker A: All the lost mission stuff. [00:01:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:34] Speaker A: Which I don't remember. I'm really concerned that I just didn't watch it. But it's also possible the lost missions was right around the time when I was watching or when I was teaching, because that was around 2016, that I. [00:01:49] Speaker C: Would have watched it a little bit. You might have been in and out, but you might have just watched it on your own. [00:01:53] Speaker A: But, I mean, I watched most of clone wars on my laptop in 2016 because I remember I was watching it on my laptop most of the time. [00:02:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:04] Speaker A: So my point is that you could go from, like, okay, here's the Asoka stuff. And then you go back and now you watch rebels. And you could even do that. Sorry. Then you go back and you watch Ahsoka. But you can even do that with rebels where you're like, I just want to see Ahsoka come back, do that. I don't have to necessarily see the grand inquisitor stuff. Right. But then if the inquisitor thing with Merrick becomes a thing. A thing, you might go, okay, I'm a little more curious about, like, well. [00:02:33] Speaker C: The Inquisitors don't show the Inquisitors after seasons three and four. [00:02:36] Speaker A: They're not in season three, and they're only. But you can skip seasons one and two for the most part. If you're just doing an ahsoka watch, you just see fulcrum show. You know, I think it's better to go fulcrum for a while. [00:02:50] Speaker C: Yeah, true. [00:02:51] Speaker A: But, like, same thing with thrawn. You can be like, oh, who's thrawn? Hey, I got good news for you. You don't even have to read the book. Just go watch episode seasons, like three and four of rebels. Yeah, and he's pretty much a main thing for that entire. [00:03:04] Speaker C: So because I'm halfway through season three. [00:03:07] Speaker A: Now, but, like, obviously, twilight of the Apprentice has to be there. Yeah, but you don't necessarily need every major Ahsoka arc from clone wars to really tell the story that's happening. No, you need. Ahsoka leaves the order. You need. Ahsoka is annoying. [00:03:27] Speaker C: Yeah, you need her first appearance, tales of the Jedi. You had her chronological. [00:03:32] Speaker A: Well, you don't even need tales of the Jedi, except for maybe the one with. They're also so short. It's so like, if you. If I were to say, oh, you only get one tales of the Jedi, I'd be like, watch the one where she trains against the, like, even the one that basically retells the story of the. [00:03:52] Speaker C: Oh, I thought that was really good. [00:03:53] Speaker A: It was really good. [00:03:54] Speaker C: I like that one more than the middle one you were talking about. [00:03:56] Speaker A: But I feel like its importance to the story is kind of like, oh, yeah, Jedi on the run. We've seen it. [00:04:04] Speaker C: She returns in that one. [00:04:06] Speaker A: That's what she comes back or whatever. She heals the crystals in that one. Is that what, the one. No, they don't show her healing. [00:04:11] Speaker C: They don't show her. Yeah, she just kills the inquisitor. [00:04:13] Speaker A: She just kills the inquisitor because in the book, she gets the inquisitor to blow their lightsaber. Blow their lightsaber. Well, she doesn't get them to. She tries to stop it. Yeah, but, yeah, you get that. And then maybe, like, one or two other arcs. Like, I mean, you need to understand why we say fuck Bera, Sophie, pardon my language. That bitch. But maybe some padme stuff and maybe, like, one really good ahsoka and Anakin thing. [00:04:40] Speaker C: So many kind of. [00:04:42] Speaker A: Enough maybe. [00:04:42] Speaker C: And maybe the mortise stuff, depending on where this season goes. [00:04:45] Speaker A: I absolutely think the mortise stuff is important. Yeah, I don't care if it comes up. But then if that was enough for you and you're like, wait, I'd like to go back again. You could still go back and go, okay, now I want to get the mandalorian history stuff and the bo Katan stuff, and you can watch the bo Katan arc, and then you can understand why I think America's quirky. Anyway, we should record. [00:05:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:10] Speaker A: Hey, everybody, it's Bryce. [00:05:12] Speaker C: Are we dropping that? We should just drop that. [00:05:15] Speaker A: Honestly, I would not mind having. It's only 5 minutes. [00:05:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:18] Speaker C: So drop that. As a fun ahsoka. [00:05:22] Speaker A: I'm very curious what people think about whether one, whether we should even have that conversation, which I feel like anybody who listens would be like, yeah, no, talk about Ahsoka. [00:05:32] Speaker B: Go for it. [00:05:32] Speaker A: Whatever. [00:05:33] Speaker C: Oh, we're going to. But we're going to. [00:05:36] Speaker A: I would like to have certain people who I trust know the old canon, the old ways to actually talk about, like, thrawn. But I mean, beyond that conversation is just a matter of, like, build the perfect list. What else goes on the list of which. Of the perfect Ahsoka watch list. Of the perfect Ahsoka watch list. [00:06:35] Speaker C: Oh, that's kind of what I'm working on. [00:06:37] Speaker A: Are you stuff. You've been working on that or did you start working on that when I started? [00:06:40] Speaker C: No, no. This has been two months in the making. [00:06:43] Speaker A: That's what I thought. [00:06:44] Speaker C: Like I said, this is the Florence, like, I don't know, three or four weeks. So I took this list and I made it more. This is my Ahsoka prep list, but I treated it as this new Ahsoka show as rebel season five. [00:06:58] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:06:59] Speaker C: So I had obviously, like, most of the solid Asoka stuff, her with her lightsabers, her losing a lightsaber, the forces of destiny, where Yoda's like, no, use your second lightsaber. Like you would use it. Not like how Jedi would use it in general and that kind of stuff. And then her and her relationship with Padme and how they were like, friends and which enforces the tales of the Jedi funeral scene when Bale's like, what are you doing here? And she's like, she's my friend. [00:07:30] Speaker A: Which episode is that? [00:07:32] Speaker C: That's the last one. [00:07:33] Speaker A: I 100% withdraw. Yeah, I was thinking the last one was the one where she's on. That is the last. [00:07:40] Speaker C: It is. So the funeral scene is, like the prelude before. It's the cold open, basically, for that whole episode. [00:07:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:48] Speaker A: Okay. [00:07:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:49] Speaker C: And you see, like, Rex is at the end, like, waiting for her. And then. Credits roll intro credits. [00:07:55] Speaker A: All right. [00:07:56] Speaker C: And then it fast. [00:07:57] Speaker A: I only remembered the Sith part, but. [00:07:59] Speaker C: Now when I was going through this, I'm like, I know that happened because it was heartbreaking and just so good, but I'm like, I don't remember what episode that was. And I totally forgot. It was basically the cold open. [00:08:09] Speaker A: When we were talking about the third episode, my entire thought was like, oh, yeah, the weird, smoky Sith monster with a raven. Like, yeah, such a badass. It was super freaking cool. But I don't know that that story necessarily added anything for me, also, because I read a book that fleshed that out way better. [00:08:25] Speaker C: Kind of. [00:08:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:26] Speaker A: I mean, I feel like Kanan did the same thing where every Jedi story of, like, I'm in hiding. It's like I was in hiding until I accidentally had to use force push to save somebody from getting crushed because they're always around someone getting almost crushed. Why are all these people around Jedi constantly falling or almost getting crushed? [00:08:43] Speaker C: And it's always humans. Humans are clumsy as shit. [00:08:46] Speaker A: They are. How come the Rhodians are never falling out? [00:08:50] Speaker C: Because they're not. [00:08:51] Speaker A: Rhodians have much better balance. It's canon. [00:08:54] Speaker C: Improper reception. [00:08:54] Speaker A: But honestly, if I was a Jedi on the run, I feel like I would just avoid construction work. It's just not a good idea. [00:09:00] Speaker C: Even, like, Gunji, he was just out and about. Yeah, he wasn't saving anybody, although he was saving himself, mostly. [00:09:06] Speaker A: Yeah, Gunji was, like, on the run. But Gunji was also a Wookie, so he's being persecuted. Wookiees have a rough fucking empire. Oh, my God. Today in had, students were struggling with the term allegory, and I was like, okay, have you seen Star wars? And this girl's like, no, I haven't. Honestly. It's just there's so much. Why are there so many robots? And the girl behind her is like, you've never seen a single Star wars? And I was like, oh, I like this going. I like this energy. And she's like, not even a one. And she's like, no, honestly, they're confusing. There's so much to follow. And I'm like, oh, it's only six movies or nine plus hours or six. It'll only take you, like, a week of your life with just the movies. But then we were talking about allegory. I'm like, you know how the Empire is kind of like an allegory for nazis? And this girl's jaw practically fell off her face. She never put this together with the. [00:10:01] Speaker C: One that was given her shit. [00:10:02] Speaker A: The one that was giving her shit. Okay, this is a podcast. And my mouth is. But she's just like. And I was like, yeah. And how the villagers that have no real technology, fighting the empire and still actually overcoming them because they know the jungle better than they do, kind of Vietnam. And she's like, oh, my God. And I'm like, bro, don't be wrong. The Vietnam one was new to me less than two years ago. But, like, the Nazi, I said, you didn't put together that there's aliens and robots all over this universe and only the humans work for the empire. There's a little bit of xenophobia. Oh, my God. Yeah, I know. Lightsabers, big monster. [00:10:49] Speaker B: I get it. [00:10:50] Speaker C: Even women for a little bit, but they've slowly kind of introduced a few, but not a whole lot. [00:10:53] Speaker A: I mean, honestly, my favorite imperials, pretty much aside from Tarkin and Thrawn, have been women. I love governor Price. She's an idiot, but I love her. And the bad bitch. [00:11:04] Speaker C: Andor. [00:11:05] Speaker A: Andor. She's so awesome. I love her so much. [00:11:08] Speaker C: And she does the best interviews. [00:11:11] Speaker A: Oh, I know. She's so. [00:11:12] Speaker C: She's so cool. [00:11:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:13] Speaker C: Character is a bitch, though. [00:11:14] Speaker A: Oh, I know. [00:11:14] Speaker C: But we love her because she's a bitch. But I don't want to love her. [00:11:17] Speaker B: Because she's a bitch. [00:11:17] Speaker C: But, yeah, no, so good. [00:11:19] Speaker A: So good. Anyway, back to your. [00:11:22] Speaker C: Yeah, so the list, basically, it was just like, here's my Rebels season five watch list. And most of it, obviously, it's going to be stuff. So, like, I had a lot of the Clone wars. So her first appearance and then the movie appearance, and then just like, ahsoka powelling around in season one, trying to learn how to be a general because she's fucking 14. [00:11:44] Speaker B: Fucking Jedi. [00:11:44] Speaker C: This is why you failed. It's a whole different podcast stuff on Ryloth because that eventually leads into more stuff on Ryloth, which eventually leads into Hera and her dad, and he's big in clone wars and a little bit of rebels. [00:11:57] Speaker A: But do you feel that that's fully necessary to understand rebels? [00:12:02] Speaker C: Hera? [00:12:03] Speaker A: Yes, like that. [00:12:04] Speaker C: Her dad. I don't care about the show itself. I'm looking at characters. [00:12:09] Speaker A: Okay? [00:12:10] Speaker C: So that's where my mind is at. [00:12:11] Speaker A: With this list, because it seems like if you skip it, if you're going to make a list on the premise that this is Rebels season five, then automatically rebels one through 4100% should be watched. [00:12:24] Speaker C: Plus, that's on your. [00:12:25] Speaker A: I mean, even if you're not super into kind of the slowness of that first, like, five or six episode arc, Chopper is still there. [00:12:32] Speaker C: Chopper's the goddamn best. [00:12:34] Speaker A: And Chopper is great. So watch it. It's fine. But that means that this list is really a rebels lead up list that includes, again, rebels season five because it's rebel season five. [00:12:45] Speaker B: Okay. [00:12:45] Speaker C: But again, the show is called Ahsoka. So we're also going to include all the Ahsoka stuff because it's just great anyway, obviously. [00:12:50] Speaker A: But also, if Rebel season five is happening right now, and it was actually rebel season five and it was heavily focused on an Asoka arc, my lead up list would still include a lot of ahsoka. [00:13:01] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [00:13:03] Speaker A: Okay. [00:13:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:04] Speaker C: So basically, it's just like. So I wrote little notes next to my episode list or episode numbered numbers. So I have, like, cloak of Darkness, like Soca Palan around 19 through 21 ryloth season one. [00:13:18] Speaker A: What's Ahsoka Palan around in Cloak of Darkness? Is that the one where she's hanging out with the blue lady and making friends with her? [00:13:28] Speaker C: No, that's a little bit later. [00:13:29] Speaker A: Okay. [00:13:30] Speaker C: And I don't think I actually included it in the list, which is so because I could have included every ahsoka appearance. [00:13:35] Speaker B: Sure. [00:13:36] Speaker C: But not every ahsoka appearance really was important for her character development. [00:13:42] Speaker A: Right. [00:13:43] Speaker C: And that's kind of where my mindset was. [00:13:44] Speaker A: That's why I was like, include the episode. [00:13:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:47] Speaker A: Koon teaches her so much, and he's such a different teacher than. [00:13:50] Speaker C: But he's the one that brought her to the Jedi order. So they have that really cool father daughter dynamic, whereas when she then goes to Anakin and kind of Obiwan, if you watch the movie, she's like, probably, like, 75% Anakin's Padawan, but is also, like, 25% Obiwan's. [00:14:11] Speaker A: Right. He's absolutely a mentor. [00:14:14] Speaker C: And I didn't realize that until this last rewatch of the movie, because normally I'll throw on that Clone wars movie and be like, okay, I'll have it on the background because it's not the best. But I actually sat down and watched it. I'm like, oh, there's a lot more nuance than I remember there being. [00:14:27] Speaker A: I especially like the way they treat, like, disdain for this and becoming this very. [00:14:36] Speaker C: And then Obi Wan giving them shit. [00:14:38] Speaker A: But it's like kind of a flip on the hero's journey that instead of a reluctant hero with a mentor, the mentor is a reluctant mentor. [00:14:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:47] Speaker A: You see, Anakin kind of come to a point where he's like, listen, this is why we do it this way, especially in that very first couple arcs. What planet is that? Christophsis. In that Christophsis arc with. Oh, no, Ahsoka. Is she in that? [00:15:02] Speaker C: Yeah, she is. [00:15:03] Speaker A: She's not in cat and mouse with the spider guy, correct. [00:15:05] Speaker B: Yes. [00:15:06] Speaker A: Okay, so yeah, on Christophsis, because that. [00:15:08] Speaker C: Was clone trooper stuff. [00:15:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:10] Speaker A: And with all the bale stuff on Christophsis when they're, like, going under, I mean, bail stuff's always great. But I feel like Christophsis is kind of an important thing because that's kind of where she and Anakin aren't just like, okay, we'll deal, but fully, like, listen, you need to listen to me in order for this to work. I get it. You're way too much like, yeah. [00:15:33] Speaker C: And they even bring that up. I don't know if it's Obi Wan or Yoda. They're like, no, we put you guys together because you're so. Yeah, obviously. And they're like, no, we're not. At the same time, because Anakin needs. [00:15:45] Speaker A: Some empathy and needs to understand the effect he has because of all of his reckless. [00:15:50] Speaker C: So that's why they. [00:15:51] Speaker A: You turned Wolf Yolar into the Empire by being a d bag. Like, wolf, y'Allarn's like the only guy in the Star wars universe who was like, I don't like that Anakin guy from the. [00:16:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:16:04] Speaker A: Everyone else is like, he's the chosen one. Things are Anakin. He's fine. [00:16:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:09] Speaker A: And Wolf yarn's like, I don't like that kid. Why am I stuck with this kid? Yeah, Wolfie, Lauren, you saw it the whole time. [00:16:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:18] Speaker B: But then. [00:16:18] Speaker C: So I have like, sorry. Carry no all eventually. So my season two. So the Jedi holocron one where Ahsoka kind of messes up in the field. They're like, hey, we're going to have you sit back at the Jedi temple and just hang out with the librarian. [00:16:33] Speaker A: He's not librarian is. [00:16:35] Speaker C: No, he's like the archivist, though. What? [00:16:39] Speaker A: Who? [00:16:39] Speaker B: He. [00:16:40] Speaker C: No, she. [00:16:40] Speaker A: Oh, you're talking about. There's also the old guy who's kind. [00:16:45] Speaker C: Of basically, that's later. So she's hanging out with Jocasa new and the heist with Bane comes in. [00:16:55] Speaker A: That's right. [00:16:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:56] Speaker A: Cad Bane pretending to be a Jedi. [00:16:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:58] Speaker C: So that whole cool arc, that's beginning of season two, and then you go into, like, as I call it, intro to that bitch. That's where she first meets fucking bitch Barris. Yeah. Which lends itself later on. [00:17:12] Speaker A: I mean, if you haven't seen this already, heads up. Don't trust that. [00:17:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:17:16] Speaker C: So then after that is when we get into lightsaber lost with that one Jedi that I now also can't remember the name of. There's been some whiskey tonight. It's fine. It's great. [00:17:24] Speaker A: Not on my end. [00:17:25] Speaker C: Shit. [00:17:26] Speaker A: He's got a big nose, and he was in a tank in Obi Wan, and he's old. [00:17:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:30] Speaker C: So then he shows up in Obi Wan, very sadly, in a tank as, like, a trophy in the. Like. [00:17:37] Speaker A: So he's dead in there? [00:17:38] Speaker C: Yeah, very. Along with some fucking padawans. Obi Wan got dark. [00:17:45] Speaker A: I thought they were in, like, some sort of weird battle. [00:17:48] Speaker C: Nope. Why would they keep Jedi around? [00:17:52] Speaker A: For leeching their force power. For doing the thing they did with. What's the video game? [00:17:57] Speaker C: Oh, that's a thing, too. Yeah, I suppose. But why would they lure them to the inquisitory space? [00:18:03] Speaker A: You don't lure them there. You just keep the bait there. Yeah, I don't keep all my bait next to the lake. I keep it in a tackle box. [00:18:10] Speaker B: What? [00:18:10] Speaker C: That's weird. [00:18:11] Speaker A: You keep your bait just sitting next to the lake you like to fish at? [00:18:15] Speaker C: Yeah, why the hell not? [00:18:16] Speaker A: Bro, you need a tackle box. We need to go. Today's episode is brought to you by bass pro shops. [00:18:23] Speaker C: But also, if you want to throw. [00:18:24] Speaker A: Me a gift card, go buy fish and hang out. [00:18:27] Speaker C: Fucking love going to bass pro shops, though. [00:18:30] Speaker A: They're always so far away. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:31] Speaker A: I have a gift card to Bass pro shop, and I haven't actually used it. I've had it for, like, four years. [00:18:35] Speaker C: We just drove by one two weeks ago. [00:18:37] Speaker A: I know. No, we went to Vegas so we could go to in n out so. [00:18:42] Speaker C: That we could perform a wedding that you heard. So we last. I don't know where the hell this episode's gonna go in the grand scheme of things. [00:18:50] Speaker A: I think we're doing this after blue beetle. [00:18:53] Speaker C: I feel like we should put this out a day before Blue Beetle. [00:18:57] Speaker A: Oh, you say we want to do a bonus episode, because this very easily could be episode 49, and then all we have left is Pokemon. [00:19:02] Speaker B: No, this is 50. [00:19:03] Speaker C: This is a bonus episode. Spoilers. We're doing Pokemon for episode 50. [00:19:08] Speaker A: You heard it here first. Bonus episode listeners. Okay. [00:19:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:12] Speaker A: Anyways, where's my phone? Where's my phone? I'm going to fact check. [00:19:16] Speaker C: I want to fact check. [00:19:17] Speaker A: There's a bonus episode. It means you get to hear our fact checks. [00:19:20] Speaker C: I feel like this is a bonus episode because we're going to expand on this a lot more with our people. [00:19:25] Speaker A: That's fair. Okay, well, while I'm fact checking, I'm going to give you some fun facts that are not being listed here. Fun fact. There are no longer multicolored rancor in the canon, but there were once, back in the day, when there were. In force unleashed. [00:19:45] Speaker C: Were they, like, green and pink or purple or something? [00:19:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I think they were, like, purple. [00:19:50] Speaker C: Yeah, because they came from Dathomere in courtship of Princess Leia. [00:19:55] Speaker A: Oh, courtship of Princess Leia. [00:19:56] Speaker C: It's where Han and Leia get married. [00:19:58] Speaker A: Oh, nice. This is before or after they go on the Disney cruise and have conceive. [00:20:04] Speaker C: Very much before, because at this point, that wasn't even a thing. [00:20:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I assumed so. Let's see other fun. Ryan, hit me with another fun old canon fact while I figure out what the hell this man's name. [00:20:16] Speaker C: So we were at Disneyland last week for your birthday. [00:20:18] Speaker A: We were, yeah. [00:20:19] Speaker C: And on our way there. On our way there, we were already there on our way to lamplight lounge, as we do. Because lobster nachos and zombies. Who order some if you found. Well, we found. I found a dude in a shirt that had Jason and Jaina and Anakin and Ben and Alana on the shirt. And I was like, holy shit, that's a badass shirt, dude. And he does, like, the whole point, like, you know what's up? [00:20:48] Speaker A: You know what's up? [00:20:49] Speaker C: And he keeps walking. I'm like, yeah, that's right. We were hauling ass because we were trying to get to our reservations or trying to get there. [00:20:55] Speaker A: Yeah, because we wanted to drop in a reservation. [00:20:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:57] Speaker C: Because you never know at that place and told Florence about it, and she's like, cool. That's fucking rad. Where did he get it from? And I was like, I forgot to ask, but I found it later on. Anyways, Jason, Janet, and Anakin were Han and Leia's kids in the old canon stuff. [00:21:14] Speaker B: Yes. Anakin. [00:21:15] Speaker A: Obi Wan Lupin. You were named after two of the greatest wizards I know. Sorry, carry on. [00:21:22] Speaker C: Anakin was Han and Leia's, and then Ben was Luke and Mara Jades, and then Alana was Jason and Tennel Kaw's. Secret kid that Jason didn't quite know about at that time, he started turning to the dark side stuff with. Turning. Yeah, he turned to a Sith lord and that was the whole thing. [00:21:39] Speaker A: Full sith Lord. [00:21:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:40] Speaker A: I didn't know that. [00:21:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I didn't quite get, I got the first, like two or three books. They're over there in the bookshelf. [00:21:45] Speaker A: Yeah. This is a podcast and looking at Brian's old canon bookshelf, he has a whole bookshelf for that. [00:21:50] Speaker C: And it's only half full because we have so many other books in this library. Anyways, so that's your stuff there. [00:21:59] Speaker A: So anyway, so, yeah. Goes and hangs out with terra sanube. [00:22:02] Speaker C: That's the name. [00:22:03] Speaker A: And he's an old Jedi master who. [00:22:07] Speaker C: Shows up in the old Republic phase two. [00:22:09] Speaker A: He was in the old, the high Republic. You said old Republic. [00:22:12] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I mean, that's a different. He wasn't that old then. Yeah, no, it was kind of a cool, like, shocker surprise when he showed up, but it totally made sense. [00:22:23] Speaker A: I know Ortho Rancisis is in the high Republic and Yoda is. And there's like, one other who is. [00:22:29] Speaker C: There's twelve and I can't remember twelve total. There's always. [00:22:34] Speaker A: No, I mean, that make it all the way to fall of the Republic. [00:22:38] Speaker C: Yariel. Poof. He was up until episode one. We don't know what happened in between episode one and episode two. [00:22:45] Speaker A: So he was missing, like yaddle. Almost was. [00:22:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:48] Speaker A: Where yaddle is. If you haven't watched Tales of the Jedi, you should go watch tales of the Jedi. [00:22:51] Speaker C: Yeah, we need justice for Yaddle. I mean, we kind of did. I mean, I get it, but I want more yaddle. [00:22:57] Speaker A: Yeah, well, and one of the things I really like about it, too, is that it flushes out Dooku because you need to understand that Dooku is because somebody, I think it was Professor Hu Young, says to Ahsoka, like, you come from a long line of very unusual Jedi teachers. And I mean, if you go back. [00:23:18] Speaker C: Ahsoka, in fact, during the episode, you're like, there was this, there was this. [00:23:21] Speaker A: Guy, ahsoka, Anakin, Obi Wan Qui Gon, Count Dooku. And then, like, and Yoda hadn't had a padawan in a long time. When he finally did, and he took on Dooku specifically because of where Dooku's. [00:23:35] Speaker C: And what the Force was telling him. [00:23:36] Speaker A: And force was telling him and why, like, because Dooku was already kind of straying from the order while training Qui Gon which I have not read that book yet. [00:23:47] Speaker C: Master and apprentice. [00:23:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:48] Speaker C: Oh, my God. It's one of my favorite all time Star wars books. Master and apprentice. It's basically Obi Wan and Qui Gon, probably, like, five years before Phantom Menace, and they go off and they do their thing. But then Obi Wan or no, Qui Gon meets Dooku's other padawan, because Dooku had a couple of padawans. [00:24:09] Speaker A: Oh, he was on the council, rather. [00:24:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:24:12] Speaker A: More things you could learn in Tales of the. So if you're being real thorough, I feel like you got to include that. [00:24:19] Speaker C: And if you want to, but, yeah, the Dooku Jedi lost book. It's an audio drama which has a. [00:24:27] Speaker A: Lot of the original voice cast except for Dooku, which is kind of frustrating. [00:24:30] Speaker C: But for the Clone wars, because they did that book after he passed. Christopher Lee passed away. [00:24:36] Speaker A: No, but you could use the Clone Wars. Dooku. [00:24:38] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:24:40] Speaker A: If you're going to use Ventrist. [00:24:43] Speaker B: What's her name. Yeah. [00:24:43] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:24:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:45] Speaker C: So ventress's voice actress from the Clone wars did, right. [00:24:48] Speaker A: So why not the reading on the. [00:24:50] Speaker C: Book or the drama? [00:24:51] Speaker A: I mean, at the very least, if you're going to do a dooku impression, at least lower your voice. And this guy's just like, count Dooku, and I sound like this. I'm like, no, you don't. [00:25:01] Speaker C: You have the attitude kind of down. But anyways, so both books, Master look of. That superior look of. [00:25:10] Speaker A: No, that something look of superiority. [00:25:12] Speaker C: Yeah, I can't remember. [00:25:14] Speaker B: Fact check. [00:25:14] Speaker A: I'm going to fact check this meme. [00:25:16] Speaker B: Yeah, meme. Check. [00:25:17] Speaker C: Meme, meme. [00:25:18] Speaker B: Check. [00:25:20] Speaker C: Anyway, so, yeah, I have my whole list of Ahsoka and rebels, character centric things. [00:25:29] Speaker A: Signature. [00:25:30] Speaker C: Signature look of superiority. That's what we're looking for. [00:25:33] Speaker A: Yeah, you need that signature look of superiority, and you need it in your. [00:25:36] Speaker C: Voice anyway, but bringing it back around. Around because, you know, us. [00:25:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:42] Speaker C: So I had, like, all sorts of stuff from clone wars, but not every. [00:25:46] Speaker A: What happens after Terra Sinuve? I still want to hear your actual list. [00:25:50] Speaker C: Oh, that's a long one. And actually, it's a pretty decent arc for Ahsoka. We have Mandalore stuff. We have forces of Destiny. [00:26:12] Speaker A: Because you also were prepping for story. [00:26:15] Speaker C: Yes. [00:26:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:17] Speaker C: But also, those are very big Ahsoka episodes. [00:26:19] Speaker B: Yes. [00:26:20] Speaker A: I think the only necessary forces of Destiny episode is the one where Yoda tells her to fight like herself. [00:26:26] Speaker C: Yes. [00:26:27] Speaker A: Every other one, I think, is just gravy, like all the Sabine ones. I'm like, this is fun. [00:26:31] Speaker B: It's fun. I don't need. [00:26:33] Speaker C: Yeah. Because she ends up helping Princess Leia. She ends up helping. Oh, my God. Chick from rogue one. Wow. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Jen Urso. [00:26:42] Speaker C: Jen Urso. I am chick mine. [00:26:44] Speaker A: Rogue one. [00:26:44] Speaker C: Really? [00:26:46] Speaker A: After Women's history month. [00:26:50] Speaker C: Shout out to Bridget. Yes, we have. That stuff forces destiny with Padme and Ahsoka just powelling around, fighting off bad guys as they do. Then we have Clone wars episodes where Ahsoka and Padme are doing the same sort of thing. [00:27:07] Speaker A: I think it really also helps to go, hey, she has more than just a relationship with Anakin, and that's why she's so attached or so kind and so, like, I gotta kind of an eye out on. [00:27:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:19] Speaker A: During the Boba fet scenes, when she shows up, you're like, yeah, this isn't just your friend's is. [00:27:25] Speaker C: She's a friend of the family. She really is a friend of the family. [00:27:27] Speaker A: This is Auntie Asoka over here trying to come and check in because she knew both of your parents and his. [00:27:32] Speaker C: Homies with r two. [00:27:33] Speaker A: And, yeah, also to go hang out with her, bro. R two. [00:27:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:36] Speaker C: So that leads us into mortis. Great episodes. Citadel rescue with Chewy. Those are just fun. Although they got pretty hardcore in Gark. Like, a lot of people died, I. [00:27:47] Speaker A: Think, at least at this point. You need to understand, if you're this far into the clone wars, you need to understand that there's going to be some. We're no longer a kid show. [00:27:55] Speaker C: No, there's some war crimes and shit going on. [00:27:58] Speaker A: That's the one with Trandosha. The trandoshans, I mean, and the boogie. [00:28:01] Speaker C: Pelts on the walls. [00:28:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:03] Speaker C: Like ten of them. [00:28:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:05] Speaker A: How would you like to see a bunch of your friends just skinned and dangling inside a hut? [00:28:09] Speaker C: The boogies are there. [00:28:10] Speaker B: It's dark. [00:28:11] Speaker A: That's a single title. Not inside of a hut, like Jabba the hut or pizza the hut. Lone star. [00:28:20] Speaker C: Nobody out. [00:28:21] Speaker B: Pizza. [00:28:21] Speaker A: Pizza hut. Hut. Oh, you're delicious. [00:28:26] Speaker C: So that brings us to season four, where there's only r1 Ahsoka centric episode. It's called friend in need, but it's her versus the Mandalorians. It was kind of a cool episode, and I totally forget about it and watch it. I'm like, I love this episode, but it's her fighting, I think Gar Saxon. [00:28:42] Speaker A: Oh. [00:28:43] Speaker C: Or no, Fenral. [00:28:45] Speaker A: Okay. But this is not when she's training Corky and his friends. [00:28:49] Speaker C: No, those are the Mandalorian. They're on Mandalore. This one's kind of at a mandalorian controlled planet. [00:28:55] Speaker B: Got it. [00:28:55] Speaker C: Moon sort of thing. [00:28:56] Speaker A: Oh, and that death watch. [00:28:57] Speaker B: Head up. [00:28:57] Speaker C: Yeah, that's it. So that brings us to season five with Anderon, training with Saw Guerrero and his sister. [00:29:03] Speaker A: I feel like that's important. [00:29:04] Speaker C: Very important. [00:29:05] Speaker A: Also, it helps to honestly figure out what the heck's going on with Saw, so you might as well cover it now. [00:29:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:09] Speaker C: And saw shows up in rebels. I actually just got to that episode. [00:29:12] Speaker A: Saw also shows up in Andor, so you might as well. Yeah, because if you're skipping Andor, you're making a mistake. [00:29:21] Speaker B: Yes. [00:29:22] Speaker A: Different podcast move on. [00:29:24] Speaker C: Skipping Andor on this list, though. [00:29:25] Speaker A: So anyway, Andor doesn't need to be on this list. [00:29:26] Speaker B: No. [00:29:27] Speaker C: And then we get to the gathering with all the younglings on Ilam trying to get their lightsaber crystals. [00:29:32] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:29:32] Speaker C: That's my favorite episode of Clone wars ever. So it's going to be on there anyways. But also, it's professor who young. Yeah, Professor Huang's on there, and that's his first appearance. David Tennant got an Emmy out of, you know, I was super stoked for him to come back for. [00:29:46] Speaker A: For sure. [00:29:47] Speaker C: So very, very needed some more forces of destiny episodes. And then we get to Ahsoka leaving the order because of that fucking bitch language. [00:29:58] Speaker A: No, seriously, she fucking sucks. [00:30:00] Speaker B: No. [00:30:00] Speaker A: Goddamn the worst. [00:30:05] Speaker C: And then she's not in season six at all. [00:30:09] Speaker A: She's just gone. And everyone's like, where did she. [00:30:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:30:12] Speaker C: So that's why when they announced, like, oh, season seven's coming back and Ahsoka lives, like, it was such a huge thing. [00:30:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:18] Speaker C: And we were there for that. [00:30:19] Speaker A: And we cried, and I hugged a stranger. [00:30:21] Speaker C: We cried all around, a lot of strangers. [00:30:23] Speaker B: And it was nice. [00:30:24] Speaker A: We were all crying. [00:30:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:25] Speaker A: We were overwhelmed. Very cathartic, joy. [00:30:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:27] Speaker C: But, yeah. So then season seven shows up, and we start off with her and the annoying sisters, because as annoying as they are and not great as those episodes were, they're kind of important for overall story arc. [00:30:42] Speaker B: Are they? [00:30:43] Speaker C: Yeah. She talks about being right and wrong, but also being a Jedi, but also not being a Jedi, but she's very conflicted with herself. Character development for herself is important. And then that's also when Bo Katan comes in and finds her and recruits her. [00:30:59] Speaker A: I feel like you could just watch the last episode of that. [00:31:01] Speaker C: Yeah, probably. Honestly, maybe the first episode and the last episode. [00:31:04] Speaker A: Okay. [00:31:05] Speaker C: And then I just put in bad batch intro for extras because. [00:31:09] Speaker A: For Canaan. [00:31:09] Speaker C: Because Canaan does show up in the first episode, and that's cool. [00:31:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:13] Speaker A: And understanding the last bit of order 66 and how that goes into the empire is kind of neat. [00:31:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:19] Speaker A: There is that Hera episode of Bad. [00:31:22] Speaker C: Batch, which goes in. I'm getting there, yeah. [00:31:24] Speaker A: Oh, I thought we were done. [00:31:26] Speaker C: No, sir. We haven't even gotten to the siege of Mandalore yet. [00:31:30] Speaker A: Why did we. Oh, the bad batch episodes. I'm going seven. I thought you're talking about bad batch, the show. [00:31:36] Speaker C: No, I'm going in chronological. [00:31:38] Speaker A: Carry on. [00:31:39] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [00:31:40] Speaker A: Just watch all of season seven. [00:31:42] Speaker C: You might as well. But just note that the make dinner. [00:31:45] Speaker A: During the two three episode arc with little sisters and then strap in. [00:31:50] Speaker C: But also note that those annoying sister episodes that spark would refer it to as. Now, they actually, chronologically are the first episodes of the season, but they're episodes like five, six, seven, and eight. [00:32:01] Speaker A: Oh, classic Clone wars. Can't put episodes out in order. [00:32:04] Speaker C: You know what's up. And then bad batch episodes of Clone wars are one through four, and then Siege of Mandalore is one through twelve. But then the Tales of the Jedi second episode or second Asoka episode one. [00:32:15] Speaker A: Through twelve for Siege of Mandalore. [00:32:17] Speaker B: Did I. [00:32:18] Speaker C: Nine through twelve? [00:32:19] Speaker A: Nine through twelve. [00:32:20] Speaker B: Nine through twelve. [00:32:21] Speaker A: You probably said nine. I don't know. We'll find out when we edit. [00:32:23] Speaker C: Yes, the online lists of Reddit, a couple of lists I checked put the tales of Jedi, like, second Asoka episode where she's training with the clone troopers in between episodes eleven and twelve of Siege of Mandalore. But you can honestly watch it after. Whatever, it's fine. [00:32:41] Speaker A: Oh, because chronologically, it probably happens. [00:32:43] Speaker C: Because it hops around during the Clone. [00:32:45] Speaker A: Wars, but it doesn't happen. Yeah, it happens throughout the entire. [00:32:49] Speaker C: And it kind of shows how she trained herself up. [00:32:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I would say that there's probably a few items on the list that can be tossed if you're doing a bare bones. [00:32:59] Speaker C: I'm not done yet, but, yes, totally. [00:33:01] Speaker A: We're done with clone wars, though, right? [00:33:03] Speaker C: Yeah, we're just about to get into bad batch. [00:33:05] Speaker A: Okay. So from the Clone Wars, I feel like I don't really care that much about Ryloth. Does it do much for Ahsoka as a character? [00:33:16] Speaker C: Not Ahsoka, but Hera. [00:33:18] Speaker A: I mean, Hera's not even in it. [00:33:20] Speaker C: She's in rebels. [00:33:21] Speaker A: She's in. No, but hera's not on Ryloth in those episodes. [00:33:25] Speaker C: No, but her dad is. He ties. [00:33:26] Speaker A: And her dad is a piece of shit. [00:33:28] Speaker C: He totally is. [00:33:30] Speaker A: I feel like the cham stuff is bonus. [00:33:33] Speaker C: You can skip it if you want, but I wouldn't. [00:33:35] Speaker A: Because there's certain things I would say, hey, don't skip this if you're going to do a thing. [00:33:38] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:33:39] Speaker A: And that one, I wouldn't necessarily be like, bro, you have to watch Ryloth. Same with saw. I feel like saw is so good and such a great arc because you really do see kind of the weird effects of the war, and it's a very good clone. [00:33:52] Speaker C: But also, Ahsoka kind of crushes on one of the dudes that's over there. [00:33:56] Speaker A: That's kind of cool. But I would not skip the Barris episode. No, I would not skip on the Barris episode. I would not episode arc. I wouldn't skip any of season seven. [00:34:06] Speaker C: No. [00:34:06] Speaker A: And I wouldn't skip tales of the Jedi. [00:34:08] Speaker C: No throwing dooku anyways, because. [00:34:10] Speaker A: And I would maybe lightsaber lost. [00:34:14] Speaker C: Yes. [00:34:15] Speaker A: Like, I would keep that. But the Jacosta new thing, if you're interested in who she is and you want to see her change, if you want to know why everyone's in love with this character, you have to see her go from snips to, I'm leaving this order because it's not good enough for me. [00:34:33] Speaker C: Yeah, it's part of her character arc. And then just. [00:34:35] Speaker A: Yeah, if you're just here because you want the facts. Just the facts, man. If that's what you're here for. I would say, like, only if you're on a crunch for time. Skip the Jacosta stuff, but I don't recommend it, and I doubt you're on. [00:34:49] Speaker C: A crunch for time, so whatever. [00:34:50] Speaker A: Yeah, and you're not on a crunch for time. You're watching Star wars, for God's sake. You're listening to us. What, are you driving somewhere? You better be driving somewhere, because if you're just sitting and listening. [00:34:58] Speaker B: Why? [00:34:58] Speaker C: How's work? [00:35:00] Speaker A: How are you? Are you doing, guy? [00:35:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:01] Speaker A: I mean, are we entertaining you? Well, like a clown. Are you not entertained? Like I'm funny to you? We went two different. [00:35:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:11] Speaker A: Russell Crowe or Joe Pesci. Yes, Joe Pesci is the gladiator. Would I amuse you? [00:35:17] Speaker C: I've watched that movie. [00:35:18] Speaker B: Holy shit. [00:35:20] Speaker C: Anyway, so that brings us to bad batch. So I only did the first episode. [00:35:24] Speaker A: Before we go to bad batch. [00:35:25] Speaker C: No. [00:35:26] Speaker B: Okay. [00:35:27] Speaker A: Online, out and abouts in the interwebs. There may or may not be a super cut of revenge of the Sith and the last four episodes of the Clone wars. [00:35:40] Speaker C: Yeah, it may or may not be out there. It may not be, like, perfect 4 hours put together. [00:35:45] Speaker A: It may or not may or not may or may not be absolutely beautifully done. And it may or may not have taken us two nights to get through. And it absolutely made or didn't make every single death count. [00:36:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:04] Speaker A: Watching the Clone wars already does that. But this was. I've never. [00:36:09] Speaker B: So. [00:36:09] Speaker C: Well done. [00:36:10] Speaker A: I've never liked Anakin. [00:36:12] Speaker C: I think live action, you know, as. [00:36:14] Speaker A: Much, you know, theoretically. [00:36:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:17] Speaker A: And then felt so horrible watching him finally fall. Yeah, dude, I saw a clip the other day of somebody pointing out that r two is always coming with him and r two and C three Po were basically traded instead of rings. Instead of ring, couldn't wear rings. And the point when he goes, stay with the ship, because in the book there's that line where C three Po is like, anakin seems to be really weird. And r two goes, I don't know, he doesn't talk to me anymore. [00:36:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:46] Speaker A: And that even in the movie when he's like, stay with a ship, r two, you're like, oh, no, I got. [00:36:53] Speaker C: A bad feeling about this. [00:36:54] Speaker A: Bad feeling. But even his snarkiness when immediately following the opening scene of that four episode arc in animation where he's like, listen, I'm going to go perform a war crime, fake a surrender, and we're going to win. [00:37:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:09] Speaker A: You tired of hiding, Obi Wan? Because I'm tired of hiding, like, watching that and then cutting to him being jokey with Obi Wan in live action, you're like, oh, you actually are kind of charming and funny. [00:37:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:22] Speaker A: Okay. [00:37:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:24] Speaker C: The Clone wars Anakin helps fix revenge of the sith. Anakin for sure. [00:37:28] Speaker A: For sure. But watching those together and not hating. [00:37:31] Speaker C: Christensen's fault, just the writing. [00:37:32] Speaker A: No. [00:37:32] Speaker C: And George's direction. [00:37:34] Speaker A: And the direction and just all that. It needed that extra context. And it needed that extra breathing room. [00:37:41] Speaker B: It did. [00:37:41] Speaker A: And four episodes are great by themselves. And that movie with that context is really, really good. Kevin Smith said it was greatest film of all time. I don't know how he feels about it now, but that combined film may or may not be really incredible and worth watching if you're trying to really close this out and be thorough. [00:38:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:02] Speaker A: And that's all I will theoretically, possibly say about that. In theory, maybe. [00:38:06] Speaker C: Hypothesis, possibly. [00:38:08] Speaker A: You guys all took science like twelve times. You've heard the scientific method. This is our hypothesis. You can go do the observation. I don't know where that came from. I've just been in a classroom for too many days in a row. Brian, what happens in bad batch? [00:38:21] Speaker C: So we're on bad batch season one. Episode one, canaan, shows up as a padawan, Caleb Dune and Freddie Prince Jr. [00:38:29] Speaker A: Does nothing to sound yuck. [00:38:30] Speaker C: Yeah, pretty much. Which I love. [00:38:32] Speaker A: I'm twelve years old. All right, just deal with it. [00:38:36] Speaker C: And then we get a Hera and Ryloth episode or two episodes, which were great. And I just threw it in Gunji anyways. Yes, of course, yes. [00:38:45] Speaker A: I don't remember how long she's had chopper around. [00:38:47] Speaker C: Since clone wars. Clearly the Y wing crashed during the clone wars and she found him. [00:38:52] Speaker A: That's right. They did explain that. [00:38:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:55] Speaker A: Chopper, origin story. You better freaking watch that. You better show some respect. [00:38:59] Speaker C: That actually happened in rebels. That explanation happened in rebels. [00:39:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Chopper just after the origin story. [00:39:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:09] Speaker A: I mean, I love Hera. [00:39:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:11] Speaker A: But if Chopper shows up, well, this is no longer a. [00:39:15] Speaker B: There. Yeah. [00:39:17] Speaker C: And then we get tales of the Jedi resolved. [00:39:19] Speaker A: Just those three? Yeah, okay. [00:39:22] Speaker C: Pretty much, yeah. [00:39:23] Speaker A: Okay. [00:39:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:25] Speaker C: So tales of the Jedi resolve the last Ahsoka episode where she defeats the inquisitor. And then we get to the rebels era, and it's like the four shorts leading up to the actual show kind of intro. Oh, yeah, they're like three to 5 minutes each. [00:39:40] Speaker A: You can kind of watch those at any time. It's fun to watch them ahead of time because you're like, oh, cool. I know these people are already, but if you don't and one day you're like, I could use a little bit more rebels. [00:39:51] Speaker C: Yeah, it works. [00:39:52] Speaker A: It works. [00:39:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:53] Speaker C: And we have season one. [00:39:54] Speaker A: I hope you're writing all of this down. There is a quiz at the end of this podcast. I'm not doing the quiz. [00:39:58] Speaker C: You're the sort of teacher. It's all you. [00:40:03] Speaker A: Assignment manager right now. Cocoa classroom. Why is everyone so obsessed with it? I don't know. [00:40:11] Speaker C: Just put on fucking toy Story again and watch the first 45 minutes. [00:40:16] Speaker A: Seven times, dude, you mean many times I've seen, like, the four episodes of Mythbusters I watched when I taught middle school or subbed for middle school. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I love Mythbusters, but after the 7th time, I am not capable of staying awake. There was this documentary we watched in history class where Jeff Bridges narrated it, and he was talking about Sakajuia, but he pronounced it Sakagawea, which is probably more accurate. But there's only so many hours of Sakaga Waya that you can take before you're just like, I don't know that I'm going to make it through this period without falling asleep. I'm going to pass out right here. And then they're going to just leave the class and I'm going to wake up and everyone's going to be gone, just like when I was in high school. [00:40:59] Speaker C: Brutal. [00:41:00] Speaker A: Anyway, Chicago. [00:41:04] Speaker C: And there's a forces of Destiny episode in there. I don't remember which one. And they didn't make a correct note. But the list I found online with the forces Destiny episodes were kind of off. So at this point, I'm so far in, I'm just like, whatever. [00:41:17] Speaker A: No, but forces Destiny was weird because of its release. [00:41:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:21] Speaker C: Everything was so out of order. [00:41:22] Speaker A: Anyways, they were all out of order. And they were all introduced by Maz with, like a short, like, she's sitting by a fire kind of telling you a story. And none of that Maz stuff is on Disney plus's version of Forces of Destiny. [00:41:35] Speaker C: No. So they actually released on the Disney Channel a 30 minutes episode or a couple of 30 minutes episodes with, like, a separate storyline of Maz in a jail breaking out or, like, slowly planning on breaking out and just telling these random stories that don't have anything to do with her breaking out. Yeah, it was weird. I think Hondo shows up eventually, maybe. [00:41:57] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't remember it all. So with the numbering, I can see. [00:42:01] Speaker C: That being off is what the. [00:42:04] Speaker A: Sorry for talking over you. [00:42:05] Speaker C: The numbers. [00:42:06] Speaker A: I know it happens a lot, and I'm really sorry about it. Yeah, I don't mean to interrupt mean, because interrupting is not good. [00:42:15] Speaker C: No. [00:42:19] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:42:19] Speaker A: I was like, how long can I keep this up? [00:42:21] Speaker B: I figured that was going like. [00:42:23] Speaker A: I was like, how long will it take before Brian starts to go? [00:42:25] Speaker C: I'm going to start scrolling instagram, not. [00:42:27] Speaker A: Talk to you anymore. Sorry. [00:42:29] Speaker C: Okay, but those numbers, just random that I found and they didn't mesh up with the actual episode, so I got to go through and redo those. But anyways, we're going through seasons one through four of rebels anyway, so whatever. [00:42:41] Speaker A: And again, if you're a completionist, you're going to want all those episodes. But if you're not a completionist, go. [00:42:46] Speaker C: Back to them later. [00:42:47] Speaker A: Watch that one with her training and Yoda gets her to use the lightsaber in a cool way. Yeah, I do recommend that one. [00:42:54] Speaker C: There is a good one with Ezra and Ahsoka with the lightsaber training. [00:42:58] Speaker A: Oh, okay. That might also be worth it. [00:43:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:01] Speaker C: So that's really good. Other than that, you're fine. And then we get to season four. That's fine there. And then we pretty much skip all of original trilogy, because no one shows up in anything because they weren't invented yet. So they have, like, post return of the Jedi, and there's actually a couple of force of Destiny episodes where Chopper and Hera interact with Han and r two, and they're on Endor. Everybody's on Endor, which is freaking rad. [00:43:27] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that one's great. [00:43:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:29] Speaker C: And then that brings us into the mandalorian era with Asoka showing up with Mando and the kid and then Boba Fett, that in episode two, and then back to mandalorian, where Zeb shows up in episode five of season three. Season three. Season three. And that takes us straight up to Ahsoka, the show. And that was my basic list. [00:43:54] Speaker A: If you wanted just a little bit more context for this guy they keep hunting after named Grand Admiral Thrawn on top of rebels. I would recommend the Thrawn trilogy that Timothy Zahn wrote. Thrawn. Thrawn alliances. [00:44:09] Speaker C: The new trilogy. [00:44:09] Speaker A: The new trilogy, not the original titled thrawn. Yeah. Thrawn. Thrawn alliances and thrawn treason. [00:44:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:16] Speaker A: And I would recommend those books. Audiobook is fantastic. Mark Thompson reads them all, and his thrawn like a boss. Also, I couldn't quite put my finger on why I felt that that episode of Forces of Destiny was so important or why I felt that the Plo Koon episode was so important. But I think what it is is that in order for Barris's betrayal and Ahsoka's leaving the order to really have the impact, you need to see how she interacts with the order itself. Because if you're only seeing her with Anakin, it's like, yeah, she left the order. Anakin's her master. Of course she left the order. But when you see how she interacts with Plokoon, how she interacts with Yoda, how she interacts with Terra Sanube and Jacostanu, you have. Now, this context of, like, Ahsoka is not just some Padawan doing missions with, like, she's, like, one step removed from the council. She's a general. And, yes, there's many generals, but she is a general who is regularly coming back to Coruscant and doing other things and at one point gets kind of punished for screwing up so bad. And so they still are all kind of mentoring her. And it's sort of, this takes a village to raise a child, which makes that whole trial seem so much brutal, harsher. But it colors her entire, like, why did she leave? Where did she go? What did she do? [00:45:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:44] Speaker A: And then to see. Coming back to the siege of Mandalore, to see that and her being like, I still am fighting the good fight. I still believe in the tenets that the Jedi believe in. I just cannot be part of this organization, because I'll never be part of a club that would have me. But those, I think, are so important. If you really want to see the character development, and if you want to understand why everybody's so in love with her. I mean, I saw a billboard today. Or not a billboard, but a bus band. [00:46:14] Speaker C: The bus stickers? Yeah, they're everywhere. [00:46:15] Speaker A: It's a bus sticker today. And I looked at it, and I looked at her, and I thought, not only do we have a woman protagonist, that is enough that we're just like, yo, here's her name. Here's her face. You're in. You're ready for it. Let's go. But she's an alien. She's not a human. And I know that Mando definitely walked so that she could flip around and stuff by being a main character that never shows his face. Doesn't even show his face once in season three, thankfully. But, like seasons one and two, he only shows up once in a while. And we have a main character that doesn't is a human, but never shows his face. And then Asoka is straight up like an alien. And I never. Honestly, if you'd asked me ten years ago, could we have a Star wars show that focuses on one alien like Erodian, probably not. But even a Twillic, I would have been like, and two of our main characters in this show are a Twillock and a. Yeah, that's four leku just out and about. And then a droid, and then this droid, who's a major, major character. But, yeah, I feel like they're two droids. [00:47:37] Speaker C: Yeah, basically. I mean, professor and chopper. [00:47:40] Speaker A: Professor and chopper. I need to see some professor and chopper interaction. Allah CtbO and r two. But instead of r two being like. And he goes, oh, I wish I had your confidence. It'd be like. And he's like, how dare you? [00:47:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:56] Speaker C: Shit, I need that. [00:47:58] Speaker A: But, yeah, I just think it's so cool that we've got a non human as this main character. [00:48:05] Speaker C: The lead. [00:48:06] Speaker A: As the lead, as the name of the show. And everyone's like, yeah, I'm in. [00:48:10] Speaker B: I'm in. [00:48:10] Speaker C: Let's go, let's go. [00:48:11] Speaker A: But, yeah, say less context and give me more if you need context. I recommend those shows. Brian also recommends those episodes. Yeah, and that's it. [00:48:29] Speaker C: That's it for this blue Beetle intro episode. [00:48:32] Speaker A: I mean, the file is titled SG Blue Beetle intro, so we really nailed it. Good job. [00:48:39] Speaker C: What? ADHD. [00:48:41] Speaker A: I was just like, we're having a good conversation. I'm just going to hit record and keep going. This is one of those why aren't. [00:48:46] Speaker C: We recording situations where we actually recorded. [00:48:49] Speaker A: Look at that. We're getting better. Ladies and gentlemen, we're back. [00:48:54] Speaker C: We're still here. We're still here. We're doing the thing. But, yeah, we'll probably do a bigger, more roundabout Ahsoka Thrawn episode. [00:49:04] Speaker A: I mean, honestly, this entire list and curtailing this list would have taken up way too much time on a. What's the Ahsoka thrawn backstory? Yeah, but I think it's entirely necessary, and I think, what should I watch before, you know, so summarizing, you need tales of the Jedi through the whole list again, fast. All three episodes of tales of the Jedi that involve Ahsoka. You need a handful of her episodes that specifically focus on her with other Jedi masters. Then you need her with Barisophie. You need her with some mandalorians, and then you need ryloth so that you can see her be a badass, and you can get some context for why Hera's like, nah, I'm cool. My dad's a d bag. [00:49:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:53] Speaker C: Why Hera's Hera. [00:49:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:54] Speaker A: And of course, you need the Mando stuff. So that sets up for a lot of the things that are happening with Sabine, and it'll also help you with all the stuff that happened in season three of mandalorian. Congratulations. You're welcome. Then you're going to watch season seven. Then you're going to watch a few episodes of the bad batch for extra context there. And then you're at rebels, seasons one through four. Yeah, you're going to want to watch them all. Just watch them all. They're so easy and so palatable. Like, one of our friends was just saying, I can't really keep clone wars on and keep engaged, but I can with rebels. [00:50:23] Speaker C: Yeah, rebels. [00:50:25] Speaker A: Absolutely. Like, that is felony at its finest. [00:50:28] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:50:28] Speaker A: Until live action started happening, because Ahsoka is killing it right now. [00:50:32] Speaker C: It's so good. So good. [00:50:34] Speaker A: So good. Anyway, but it's also rebel season five, pretty much. Yeah, that's the list. We did it. [00:50:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:42] Speaker A: Congratulations, Brian. [00:50:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:45] Speaker A: So this is all leading up so that we can go back to Dave. [00:50:49] Speaker C: Dave and finish our blue beetle, and. [00:50:52] Speaker A: You can find out the rest of the history of the blue Beetle. I mean, why does he need that t? Yeah, how many t's does he need? Or two r's? Garrett R's. Garrett two r. No t's. It was T's. Garrett with one t and then Garrett, two t's. [00:51:05] Speaker B: Okay. [00:51:06] Speaker C: Yeah, that's right. [00:51:07] Speaker A: Jay Garrett. No, Jay Garrett is a flash. [00:51:11] Speaker C: I know where you're going with this. [00:51:12] Speaker A: Anyways, Charlton comics. [00:51:14] Speaker C: Don't listen to that episode. It's fine. [00:51:16] Speaker A: That episode's what we were going to do an intro for. [00:51:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:19] Speaker A: We were not successful. No, we failed up. Look at me. I could be in politics. Okay. [00:51:27] Speaker C: You're too young. [00:51:29] Speaker A: Hey, man, did you see old enough? [00:51:32] Speaker C: Mitch McConnell did a thing again. No, today it was bad. It was worse than the first time not to get to there. But why are these old people running this fucking country anyway? [00:51:42] Speaker A: Old enough to be president. [00:51:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:45] Speaker A: Don't tell anybody because they'll find out that we could have young presidents. But according to the Constitution, I've been old enough to be a president for, like, a year. I do not think I'm prepared to be president. [00:52:01] Speaker C: Well, that's good. Probably shouldn't run that. [00:52:04] Speaker A: I heard a comedian the other day being like, you know what? If you say you want to be president, I already don't want you to be president. You want all the power and to control the free world. [00:52:11] Speaker B: No. [00:52:12] Speaker C: Let's bet you idea. No. Yeah. [00:52:15] Speaker A: Unlimited power. [00:52:18] Speaker C: There we go. We've seen this before. I've seen this movie before. [00:52:21] Speaker A: It's almost like that whole film is an allegory. Thank you for. [00:52:25] Speaker B: Whoa. [00:52:26] Speaker C: Bringing it back around. [00:52:27] Speaker A: All right. Wow. We peaked good on the audio and in this episode. [00:52:32] Speaker B: Hey. Oh. [00:52:33] Speaker C: Anyways, thanks for joining us on this non blue. [00:52:36] Speaker A: Do we want to do a. What are you reading? It's a bonus episode. [00:52:39] Speaker C: No, we'll do that later. [00:52:41] Speaker A: And we know what we're watching. Shitloads of, like, Star wars, extended canon. [00:52:46] Speaker B: Literally. [00:52:47] Speaker C: This list I went through. I've been going through the last three weeks. [00:52:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:49] Speaker A: And I just come in and I sit down once in a while while I'm playing breath of the wild. It's still breath of the wild. Nailed it. We got both of things. [00:52:55] Speaker C: We're good. [00:52:55] Speaker A: Okay, cool. Well, I'm glad this episode happened. Happy minisode, everybody. [00:53:00] Speaker B: Yay. [00:53:00] Speaker A: Enjoy. [00:53:01] Speaker C: Bonus. [00:53:01] Speaker B: Bye. [00:53:02] Speaker A: Enjoy. Is this 49 or is this the bonus? [00:53:06] Speaker C: Bonus. Bonus.

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